EASA working Single Pilot Ops until 65
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EASA working Single Pilot Ops until 65
Gents,
We have been told under EASA we will be able to fly single pilot ops public transport until the grand old age of 65.
Am surprised this has n't been mentioned here or did I miss something?
We have been told under EASA we will be able to fly single pilot ops public transport until the grand old age of 65.
Am surprised this has n't been mentioned here or did I miss something?
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No commercial flying over the age of 60 as single pilot ..
Definition of "Commercial Air Transport":
You can still do:
-sightseeing trips
-Dropping parachutes
-Ferry flights
-maintenance flights
-fire fighting
-SAR flights
-sling load etc…(everything not considered "CAT", so you can do Aerial work and non-CAT or General Aviation flights)…
Unfortunately, i only got this document in German….
http://www.svfb.ch/media/45-00_abgre...071204_lek.pdf
FCL.065 Curtailment of privileges of licence holders aged 60 years or more
(a) Age 60–64. The holder of a pilot licence who has attained the age of 60 years shall not act as a pilot of an aircraft engaged in commercial air transport operations except:
(1) as a member of a multi*pilot crew; and,
(2) provided that such holder is the only pilot in the flight crew who has attained age 60.
(b) Age 65. The holder of a pilot licence who has attained the age of 65 years shall not act as a pilot of an aircraft engaged in commercial air transport operations.
(a) Age 60–64. The holder of a pilot licence who has attained the age of 60 years shall not act as a pilot of an aircraft engaged in commercial air transport operations except:
(1) as a member of a multi*pilot crew; and,
(2) provided that such holder is the only pilot in the flight crew who has attained age 60.
(b) Age 65. The holder of a pilot licence who has attained the age of 65 years shall not act as a pilot of an aircraft engaged in commercial air transport operations.
Definition of "Commercial Air Transport":
„Commercial air transport operation“:
An aircraft operation involving the transport of passengers, cargo or mail for remuneration or hire. (ICAO Annex 6, Definitions).
An aircraft operation involving the transport of passengers, cargo or mail for remuneration or hire. (ICAO Annex 6, Definitions).
You can still do:
-sightseeing trips
-Dropping parachutes
-Ferry flights
-maintenance flights
-fire fighting
-SAR flights
-sling load etc…(everything not considered "CAT", so you can do Aerial work and non-CAT or General Aviation flights)…
Unfortunately, i only got this document in German….
http://www.svfb.ch/media/45-00_abgre...071204_lek.pdf
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Rumors...
I was told, the CAA UK would consider only scheduled flights as commercial air transport with regards to FCL.065 but i could not find any reference on their website (and as scheduled flights are usually operated MP this does not make much sense anyway). 
I was told, the CAA UK would consider only scheduled flights as commercial air transport with regards to FCL.065 but i could not find any reference on their website (and as scheduled flights are usually operated MP this does not make much sense anyway).
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Expected to come into force on 8th April 2015
Source: Civil Aviation Authority INFORMATION NOTICE Number: IN–2014/188
2.6
Maximum age of pilots for commercial balloon and sailplane flights - FCL.065
With effect from 8 April 2015, Part-FCL will be amended so that the age above which pilots holding Balloon Pilot Licences (BPL) or Sailplane Pilot Licences (SPL) are prohibited from conducting commercial air transport flights will be increased from 65 to 70 years. Note that, as described in paragraph 2.2 above, the use of Part-FCL licences to fly EASA balloons and sailplanes will become mandatory on 8 April 2018.
Maximum age of pilots for commercial balloon and sailplane flights - FCL.065
With effect from 8 April 2015, Part-FCL will be amended so that the age above which pilots holding Balloon Pilot Licences (BPL) or Sailplane Pilot Licences (SPL) are prohibited from conducting commercial air transport flights will be increased from 65 to 70 years. Note that, as described in paragraph 2.2 above, the use of Part-FCL licences to fly EASA balloons and sailplanes will become mandatory on 8 April 2018.
Come on Brill, you started this thread - where is the proof?
Can your esteemed training captain not provide a link to something official?
This matter has huge implications for many who use this site and all of my colleagues so some clarification would be appreciated.
Can your esteemed training captain not provide a link to something official?
This matter has huge implications for many who use this site and all of my colleagues so some clarification would be appreciated.
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@hueyracer
Exactly my point. Probably only a rumour re/ helicopters. Likewise the rumour I mentioned concerning CAT meaning scheduled flights only under FCL.065
The only official document (I found) is what I quoted.
Exactly my point. Probably only a rumour re/ helicopters. Likewise the rumour I mentioned concerning CAT meaning scheduled flights only under FCL.065
The only official document (I found) is what I quoted.
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Not so much interpretation in EASA:
Flight Standards | EASA
So if you´re not flying cargo or pax….you´re safe……which means ferry flights, maintenance flights….observation flights, power line checks…..
The link in german i posted above states that-as far as German CAA is concerned-spraying and other "cargo"-like flights are exempt as well…..i haven´t found an english page stating this...
What is the difference between 'commercial operation' and 'commercial air transport (CAT) operation'?
Reference: Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 ('the Basic Regulation'), Regulation (EU) No 965/2012 on Air Operations
The term 'commercial operation' is defined in Article 3 of the Basic Regulation as follows:
'Commercial operation' shall mean any operation of an aircraft, in return for remuneration or other valuable consideration, which is available to the public or, when not made available to the public, which is performed under a contract between an operator and a customer, where the latter has no control over the operator.
The term 'commercial air transport (CAT) operation' is defined in Article 2 of Regulation (EU) No 965/2012 as follows:
'Commercial air transport (CAT) operation' means an aircraft operation to transport passengers, cargo or mail for remuneration or other valuable consideration.
The two definitions make it clear that 'commercial operations' include 'CAT operations'.
Reference: Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 ('the Basic Regulation'), Regulation (EU) No 965/2012 on Air Operations
The term 'commercial operation' is defined in Article 3 of the Basic Regulation as follows:
'Commercial operation' shall mean any operation of an aircraft, in return for remuneration or other valuable consideration, which is available to the public or, when not made available to the public, which is performed under a contract between an operator and a customer, where the latter has no control over the operator.
The term 'commercial air transport (CAT) operation' is defined in Article 2 of Regulation (EU) No 965/2012 as follows:
'Commercial air transport (CAT) operation' means an aircraft operation to transport passengers, cargo or mail for remuneration or other valuable consideration.
The two definitions make it clear that 'commercial operations' include 'CAT operations'.
So if you´re not flying cargo or pax….you´re safe……which means ferry flights, maintenance flights….observation flights, power line checks…..
The link in german i posted above states that-as far as German CAA is concerned-spraying and other "cargo"-like flights are exempt as well…..i haven´t found an english page stating this...
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There are definitely discussions going on for a long time why, a pilot should not be allowed to fly CAT SP as long as he seems to be fit, i.e. holding a class I medical.
My personal point of view is: There will be an amendment by 8 April 2015. Imagine what happens if HEMS operators point out that they can not guarantee service after that date without an amendment to FCL.065 or an exemption (according to article 14 (4) of regulation EU 216/2008). And, as such an exemption can not be limited to HEMS only (where is the difference to other CAT operations...), this issue will be solved for CAT in general.
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Sorry, we have been looking for the reference today but in the limited time haven't found reference.
We know this was in an official letter.
BHAB has been mentioned.
Won't be in the office for a week now after which I shall ask said esteemed captain to elaborate.
I thought he can't be the only one who knows this hence my thread on here.
We know this was in an official letter.
BHAB has been mentioned.
Won't be in the office for a week now after which I shall ask said esteemed captain to elaborate.
I thought he can't be the only one who knows this hence my thread on here.
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brill, it hasn't been BHAB for a while now, it is the BHA
Nerd mode off!
Sloppy, in ICAO and EASA rules Police Operations are State Activity. The ANO classifies UK police aviation as a public transport operation.
brill, it hasn't been BHAB for a while now, it is the BHA
Nerd mode off!
Sloppy, in ICAO and EASA rules Police Operations are State Activity. The ANO classifies UK police aviation as a public transport operation.