BK-117 sim - built in NZ
Please can we stop with the kiwi ingenuity? People have been innovating the world over for millennia. Dave Whalley isn't even a kiwi, he's English. Yeah it's a great achievement but come on.... On the basis of this report Canada, the US, England, France and the Russians must be rocket scientists, opps... oh yeah they are..
As I said great achievement but no more than has been done elsewhere..
As I said great achievement but no more than has been done elsewhere..
ET, the general difference in Kiwi ingenuity is it involves DIY and little to no money whereas by comparison US, UK and Aus ingenuity involves lots of money.
Kiwi ingenuity is a bit like the African guy who built his own helicopter, only a little bit better.
Kiwi ingenuity is a bit like the African guy who built his own helicopter, only a little bit better.
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What a great job those guys have done! Matching the instruments with the visuals must have been a nightmare to program.
Those Westpac/Airwork guys are really leading the BK world. First the 850 engine mod then this.
Typical kiwi response too, make it yourself with a fraction of the resources of the big boys. That's kiwi ingenuity.
( Whah, whah Australia's good too etc etc, jeeze "Evil Twin" jealous much! )
I guess the AW169s they've ordered can't be showing up anytime soon though.
I think they made a huge,expensive mistake ordering those over the 429...
Those Westpac/Airwork guys are really leading the BK world. First the 850 engine mod then this.
Typical kiwi response too, make it yourself with a fraction of the resources of the big boys. That's kiwi ingenuity.
( Whah, whah Australia's good too etc etc, jeeze "Evil Twin" jealous much! )
I guess the AW169s they've ordered can't be showing up anytime soon though.
I think they made a huge,expensive mistake ordering those over the 429...
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ET - I'm the first to call bull**** on a lot of NZ boasting, but adjusted for population size, GDP, size of aerospace industry, distance from foreign markets etc. when it comes to aerospace innovation Aoteoroa punches well above its weight.
*it has a viable domestic manufacturer of airframes (Pacific)
*a nascent domestic rocket manufacturer
*an airline that achieved FAA crash-worthiness certification for domestically built monuments and seats (no small feat in itself).
*an innovator of an entirely new class of LSA (Martin)
*a possible future manufacturer of rotary wing airframes - notwithstanding a crash or two (KC-518)
I'm sure I could think of more, given a bit more time.
All in a country of around 4.5 million people where the main occupation is growing grass.
Your comparisons of the aerospace industries of major Northern Hemisphere nations (even Oz) to NZ doesn't stand analysis.
And I speak as a kiwi, resident in Australia.
*it has a viable domestic manufacturer of airframes (Pacific)
*a nascent domestic rocket manufacturer
*an airline that achieved FAA crash-worthiness certification for domestically built monuments and seats (no small feat in itself).
*an innovator of an entirely new class of LSA (Martin)
*a possible future manufacturer of rotary wing airframes - notwithstanding a crash or two (KC-518)
I'm sure I could think of more, given a bit more time.
All in a country of around 4.5 million people where the main occupation is growing grass.
Your comparisons of the aerospace industries of major Northern Hemisphere nations (even Oz) to NZ doesn't stand analysis.
And I speak as a kiwi, resident in Australia.
I'm from one of the nominated rocket-science countries (!), but was wondering exactly how many twin-engined sims there are in NZ to make this statement in the article
"The trust's chief pilot, Dave Walley, said it is the most realistic twin-engine helicopter simulator in New Zealand."
Another air ambulance operator - NEST - built an S76 sim out of a tsunami-damaged frame from Japan.
Are there any others?
"The trust's chief pilot, Dave Walley, said it is the most realistic twin-engine helicopter simulator in New Zealand."
Another air ambulance operator - NEST - built an S76 sim out of a tsunami-damaged frame from Japan.
Are there any others?
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I think the military have one or two for the 109 and NH90, I'm guessing that they would be pretty realistic. But at a few million each, probably not a fair comparison.
Other than that there may b a few thousand copies of Microsoft flight sim floating around.😀
Other than that there may b a few thousand copies of Microsoft flight sim floating around.😀
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I think this needs to be put into context.
Whilst I’m not taking away anything from their achievement, there really is nothing too complex in producing something like this today from commercially available packages and some ingenuity.
We operate a significant number of Level D Full Flight Simulators but we also recently made our own trainer based on a 19 seater complete with a full size cockpit, duel controls with the correct feel, sound, visual etc all for about US$10K (excluding our time). The complex (and potentially costly) part would be getting it qualified!
Whilst I’m not taking away anything from their achievement, there really is nothing too complex in producing something like this today from commercially available packages and some ingenuity.
We operate a significant number of Level D Full Flight Simulators but we also recently made our own trainer based on a 19 seater complete with a full size cockpit, duel controls with the correct feel, sound, visual etc all for about US$10K (excluding our time). The complex (and potentially costly) part would be getting it qualified!
