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Old 17th Mar 2014, 05:11
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Allison 250 turbine engine cutaway.

Here are a few videos of a C18 gas turbine engine I have recently completed sectioning and setting up to display.
It is now being used as a pilot training aid by Becker Helicopters on the Sunshine Coast Qld Australia.
The model was a genuine complete engine when I received it from the customer almost 2 years ago.
Over 1500 hours of labour were put into it, the results proving what an invaluable tool for explaining to student pilots and maybe a few engineers how a turbine engine works.







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Thumbs up!
Well done!
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Awesome work!
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Ok, I admit that I am an occasional nerd. And I may have a few Mech. Eng. degrees ... but ..... that is EXTREMELY cool.

I would love to see the hot section glow red during the start in the peaks ... maybe it was there but I could not see.

Sensational job.
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Outstanding work, I would have loved to have seen this about 25 years ago when I did a conversion onto the A109A I think they were C20s but it looks pretty much as I remember it.
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This is art .
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Can't help but think this is an accident waiting to happen.
Either under power or just when turned by hand, I can see a digit going missing at some stage from an inquisitive oxygen stealer poking into one of the rotors.

I have seen an accident happen with our display M250 engine which has covers. Someone found a small opening which if he bent his finger the correct way, he could turn the compressor rotor. He forgot he needed to get his finger out of the way and was not quick enough.

Maybe some perspex covers or safety guards would not go amiss.
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That really is cool.
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Great learning tool. Would have saved me a lot of classroom time ! You should put it on you-tube if not already there.
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They say a picture says a thousand words, well this takes it one step further!

Excellent work.
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Freak - that's fantastic - well done.
Surprised to see how small the compressors and stators are at the front.
In fact the whole thing is pretty small - and yet they put out such power.
Great educational tool.
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That the greatest cut awat I've ever seen, #1 dander is if someone gets too close & gets shreaded by the compressor (Them blades are sharp!)
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In my day.............the early days, Allison 250's would regularly section themselves!!
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freak1289, that is amazing. Congratulations!
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Beautiful! Felicidades from Mexico!!
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What do all the colors represent? It seems straightforward for those who know how it works, but for those that don't, a "key" of sorts would be helpful. Very cool.
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The compressor on the left forces air (through the blue lined tubes in the foreground) to the yellow combustion section on the right (where the air and fuel mixture ignite). Expanding hot gasses (shown in orange) are forced toward the left through two sets of turbine wheels. (Small blades in the wheels forces them to spin as the gasses race toward the white exhaust). One set of turbine wheels turns the (Green) gearbox which powers the helicopter rotors. (The other set turns the compressor).
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I'm one of those engineers that works on the design of turboshaft engines and helicopter drivetrains, but the ability of these turboshaft engines to operate at the temperature, speed, power output, and reliability levels they do still amazes me.
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Originally Posted by fly911
The compressor on the left forces air (through the blue lined tubes in the foreground) to the yellow combustion section on the right (where the air and fuel mixture ignite). Expanding hot gasses (shown in orange) are forced toward the left through two sets of turbine wheels. (Small blades in the wheels forces them to spin as the gasses race toward the white exhaust). One set of turbine wheels turns the (Green) gearbox which powers the helicopter rotors. (The other set turns the compressor).
I also interpreted the colours as blue for cool, yellow for hot and white for exhaust.

To the OP: that is a remarkable piece of work. If only they could be manufactured for a sensible price, I'm sure that you would have a willing worldwide market.
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It's even more remarkable when you consider in the case of the C20/C20B that the compressor consumes 600 shp when the out put shaft is putting out
useful power of 400/420 shp.
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