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Old 29th Nov 2013, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Savoia
Are you referring to the accident involving G-EYEI getting caught in a snowstorm in January 1990?

yes, didn't have time to look out the details, it wasn't actually on lease, but the second back up when G-SPOL was out of use.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...EI%2005-90.pdf
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Old 29th Nov 2013, 23:15
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Sky news (!) suggesting that the aircraft may have landed on the roof which subsequently collapsed under it's weight.

Utter speculation but consistent with lack of post crash fire. The holes certainly lined up for some poor souls tonight.
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Old 29th Nov 2013, 23:27
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Eyewitnesses speaking on the Beeb (R5) describe it falling from 500 feet misfiring and spinning and rotors not turning.

Edited to add:- No fuel fire . . .

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Old 29th Nov 2013, 23:29
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Just watched a news flash on TV.

I was the duty Helimed 05 pilot the night G-SPAU did not return.
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Old 29th Nov 2013, 23:54
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Latest reports from survivors is that the machine didn't actually crash it landed on the roof hard then roof collapsed.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 00:44
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Andy Dixon, ex RAF, is currently hanging himself on the BBC. Cringeworthy doesn't get close.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 00:45
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Don't think so. Very little rotor speed. Blade tips still in tact.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 01:24
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Police Press Conference due within the next few minutes, apparently.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 01:45
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Looking at the pictures it looks like the rotor blades were still connected and the ones in the pictures show no rotational damage possibly supporting the view that they were stationary on impact ? Thoughts.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 01:53
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Police Helicopter down in Glasgow

BBC News - Police helicopter crash: 'Multiple injuries' at The Clutha pub in Glasgow
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 01:56
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The fire chief has just confirmed that there are trapped victims still in the building.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 01:57
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Just seen the Police statement. Still no word on casualties, which can't be good.

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In view of the likelihood of fatalities here, your comment is a little bit tactless dont you think ?
He's OK. Been there, seen it and done it.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 02:02
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Yes, from what I have heard the casualties are the crew, everyone else ok.. Not good
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 02:48
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Not good at all.
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 03:24
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Jim's successor is alive and well...

....and spouting complete tosh on BBC. I've never heard such complete rubbish - worse even than dearly departed Jim - may he rest in peace.

I beg the Beeb not to use 'experts' in this way. They should know by now that anyone willing to spout in such detail so soon after an air accident is NOT AN EXPERT.

This expert wasn't even an aviator.

Please BBC don't do this.

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This refers to the 0400 broadcast
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 03:42
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BBC Shame

There is a half-baked idiot being given air time by the BBC news. It is possibly the worst post-crash drivel and speculation I have ever heard!

Does anyone know who this "Ex-aviation firefighter" is? And tell him to button it?
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 03:57
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We just saw that news brief in PNG.
That guy sounded like a complete muppet!!
"disengages the rotors...and just before arriving at the ground he would reengage the rotors in what I beleive is called a autoroation"

far out!

Hope the crew and civi's get out all ok.
 
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A comment from someone inside the pub at the time...

Grace MacLean was inside the bar at the time of the crash, and said there was no big bang or explosion at first, and just some smoke.
She said: “The band were laughing and we were all joking that the band had made the roof come down.
"They carried on playing and then it started to come down more and someone started screaming and then the whole pub just filled with dust. You couldn't see anything, you couldn't breathe.
Maybe a "Weegie" can answer this. Was the pub formerly known as the Clutha Vaults? I seem to remember it from years ago when staying at the Holiday Inn across the street
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 06:04
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Yes Sitigeltfel, it still is (although known as the Clutha).
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 06:12
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Some of the reports mention rescue crews in the basement. Would that be where the original 'vaults' were, I wonder?
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