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Old 28th Aug 2013, 11:26
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New Russian medium twin

Russians are in for a fight...

Russian Helicopters to present Ka-62 at MAKS 2013 | Vertical Magazine

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The Ka62 is developed from the Ka60 and work on the prototype began in 1990 but, as Russian helicopter developments are not well represented on PPRuNe maybe that's why you didn't get to hear about it!

The landing gear arrangement is not a million miles away from the Balckhawk set-up in terms of basic layout.

Turbomeca powerplants so we'll see how that goes. Perhaps more interesting is that the very first deliveries, as your article states, are due for offshore work.

Good luck to them!
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Best looking Russian Helicopter I've ever seen.... actually looks like it's meant for the civil world to begin with. Nice paint job too!
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Je suis d'accord, c'est très jolie!

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Needs bigger sponsons with aux fuel....nice BIG windows. I wonder about baggage capacity?
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SASless the baggage looks fine in the video! I expect this will cause Bell to push on "relentlessly" with their LMT.
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The Cabin Crew are absolutely gorgeous!
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Is it unusual to have a stabiliser behind the tail rotor?

What are the pros and cons, if any, of having two points of ground contact forward of the mast compared to behind?



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Works fine. Just depends upon where the rear wheel(s) are located.

Forward CG's can allow "Tipping" forward if you get on the brakes too hard.

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First Flight of th KA-62 : Ka-62 Medium Twin Helo Takes Flight after Years of Delays | Business Aviation News: Aviation International News
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Very good, I hope they put a video onto YouTube at some stage to get more exposure like Bell and other companies do.
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Mick - I would guess they put the horizontal stabiliser there so that it is unaffected by downwash in the hover - something that produces noticeable 'tuckunder' during the transition in some other types with the stabiliser further forward.

The tail boom looks quite short so the positioning of the stabiliser also gives maximum 'leverage' as it is as far from the C of G as possible - therefore it can be smaller.

Turbomeca engines and a fenestron would suggest collaboration with Eurocopter/Airbus.
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"...to get more exposure..."
That's never been an issue for Russian Helicopters: between their own stream of press releases and the constant barrage of articles released by the Kremlin's own Sputnik News (over 1,600 stories relating to RusHelo and counting), it's already hard enough separating the chaff from the wheat.

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Turbomeca engines and a fenestron would suggest collaboration with Eurocopter/Airbus
The Russians have been playing with fenestrons for several decades. They actually tested one on a pre-production Mi-24:



The selection of the Ardiden for the Ka-62 was a direct result of the earlier (2002) cooperation between Turbomeca and Kamov to integrate the Arrius onto the Ka-226 as a replacement for the Allison 250. The two parties were discussing the Ardiden as early as April 2007, with the engine formally selected for the Ka-62 in February 2010, following insurmountable SFC and gearbox issues with the original Saturn RD-600V powerplant. The French engine was presumably the easiest off-the-shelf solution for the Ka-62 given the ITAR issues that would have faced most other Western options, esp. in light of the 2014 certification date planned for the aircraft at the time (itself a 10-year delay from the originally envisaged 2004 date, the preceding Ka-60 Kasatka having first flown in 1998).

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Originally Posted by Tickle
I hope they put a video onto YouTube at some stage to get more exposure

Not very easy to make a video with nice shots in less than 10 minutes (3, 5 or 8 minutes flight ?) ...


P.S : thanks for all the infos I/C
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