Bell 505 Jet Ranger X
Not a very clever comment !!
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Congratulations Nigel, I have been involved in this project for 2 years, I am just leaving LA to return home, we have 6 for the UK ordered and over 120 signed orders at the show with more being completed which will be near to 200.
Nice work, R88, it looks almost perfect now! I felt that with the longer skids it should have a slightly extended rear body, so here is my little addition:
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R88/Tickle - much better. Still not a looker by any means but much better proportions. Does the name suggest that this is yet another variant of the JetRanger as far as certification goes, or is it a new type? Have they learnt from the R66's mistake?
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Matt ...... I think you were that kid Not a very clever comment !!
Have fun with your soon-to-be new helicopter. My apologies if you found my comment hurtful, but no need to make it personal. Thats not gunna' make the helicopter any prettier ;-).
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Certification
Provided that it falls within the rules there is no good reason not to have the 505 certified as a 206 variant which is exactly what Bell did with the 407.
Quite apart from the cost and the time taken there are inherent dangers in going for a new Type Certificate as Aucky has highlighted.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/agency-me...3_ROBINSON.pdf
Quite apart from the cost and the time taken there are inherent dangers in going for a new Type Certificate as Aucky has highlighted.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/agency-me...3_ROBINSON.pdf
Even though it is just a mock-up at Heli Expo.
Bell HOPES to have a flying prototype by the end of the year........
Bell HOPES to have a flying prototype by the end of the year........
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All those "new" parts look very similar to well-known Bell aircraft.
According to Evans (Bell) from HeliExpo ......
"Evans said the utility-configured 505 show mock-up “very closely represents the basic aircraft as it is designed today.” From looking at it, Evans said, “people may think we already have a flying aircraft constructed.
According to Evans (Bell) from HeliExpo ......
"Evans said the utility-configured 505 show mock-up “very closely represents the basic aircraft as it is designed today.” From looking at it, Evans said, “people may think we already have a flying aircraft constructed.
Whoever said the rotor system on it was new?
According to Bell the entire premise is to leverage the exact 206L setup, I would not be surprised at all to see reused (or extremely similar) parts all over the place.
According to Bell the entire premise is to leverage the exact 206L setup, I would not be surprised at all to see reused (or extremely similar) parts all over the place.
Not getting personal Matt .... Anyway no problem !! Yes , I agree it isn't going to make it any more pretty but I wonder if we will learn to love it . I never liked the look of the 480B ...... Then I bought one , flew it for a bunch of hours and ended up loving it !!! It is the helicopter of choice for my cocker spaniel as she could sit up front with me and curl up on the floor and look out of the floor window . She also loved the AS350 but is not keen on the 500 or the current 109 !!
As for having the L4 parts being a bad thing ...... I quite often fly an L4 over here and it is a truly great machine with I believe unrivaled reliability and safety . Of course a 4 blade head would be nice but you are not going to get that for nearly the price of a crappy old Robinson are you ??!!! ( or I imagine a lot less than an EC120 with old style avionics etc )
No doubt the next one will have the 407 kit but will be priced more to compete with the 350 . Anyway who wants to bet me I will not be able to fly my new Jet Ranger for 500 hours and then sell for a hefty profit ???!!!!!!
As for having the L4 parts being a bad thing ...... I quite often fly an L4 over here and it is a truly great machine with I believe unrivaled reliability and safety . Of course a 4 blade head would be nice but you are not going to get that for nearly the price of a crappy old Robinson are you ??!!! ( or I imagine a lot less than an EC120 with old style avionics etc )
No doubt the next one will have the 407 kit but will be priced more to compete with the 350 . Anyway who wants to bet me I will not be able to fly my new Jet Ranger for 500 hours and then sell for a hefty profit ???!!!!!!
Police variant
Usually I am great at posting photos after the first day or so when I am at the show, sadly the business center computers were crap and I did not have the photobucket app on my iPad working / downloading / uploading that well.
Interesting to see the Police variant of the 505 (originally thought designation might be 515 as kind of mirrors SLS!) which is what caught my eye.
and I thought the red one was quite cute
cheers
Interesting to see the Police variant of the 505 (originally thought designation might be 515 as kind of mirrors SLS!) which is what caught my eye.
and I thought the red one was quite cute
cheers
New JR
I know I am strange, but the nose looks like a rat running along a rafter
I know the pics are of mock ups etc but it looks very rough compared to a EC120 ie panel fitting etc
Published useful weight figures are not really different to ec120 given it will need air at 26kg etc
Seats look like a ec120 knock off
The frame looks like a Robinson R44, not sure about survivability
Anyone know the price point, if its around the $1M then how do they do it the Arrius 2F engine is 600,000Euro outright, I know it is a 2R but it must be about the same, the VEMD and ICAS/MFD must be expensive.
What are the G ratings of the seats are they like the 120?
I know the pics are of mock ups etc but it looks very rough compared to a EC120 ie panel fitting etc
Published useful weight figures are not really different to ec120 given it will need air at 26kg etc
Seats look like a ec120 knock off
The frame looks like a Robinson R44, not sure about survivability
Anyone know the price point, if its around the $1M then how do they do it the Arrius 2F engine is 600,000Euro outright, I know it is a 2R but it must be about the same, the VEMD and ICAS/MFD must be expensive.
What are the G ratings of the seats are they like the 120?
Everything I've heard it's the million dollar price point. They're supposedly crash worthy seats.... Other than that...How different do seats really need to be?
You may not like the shape, but most people don't like the price of the 120... and the shape beats the looks of a r66 and that's what it's trying to beat.
You may not like the shape, but most people don't like the price of the 120... and the shape beats the looks of a r66 and that's what it's trying to beat.
