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Old 26th Feb 2014, 18:35   #101 (permalink)
 
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Well, some people think they are ugly, but they have sold 94 of them already.
Not suprising! Like I hinted before, probably not hard to do considering the competition.

This 505 may not be much of a looker, but the R66 looks straight up like it fell out of the ugly tree in comparison.
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 19:56   #102 (permalink)
 
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I like the design even without the need to compare to the R66

So I don't have tast


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Old 26th Feb 2014, 20:01   #103 (permalink)
 
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what an opportunity missed! as an ex jet banger owner I always dreamt of the open cabin and good looks of the EC120 but with some extra power or less weight.

love the rear end and the new exhaust and get that view for pilots may work with this, but an hour's consultation with any hell pilot could have tweaked the front end to be one of the most beautiful and sought after aircraft in the world.

Another hell with compromise.... sticking a 429 or 109 type nose on the front (or dare I say it - some airbus beauty) would not have cost a lot of money and no extra spares - just a bit of design inspiration.... damn you bell ...
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 20:03   #104 (permalink)
 
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do the blades turn the right way?

which side is the pilot seat?

is that little thing on the back right side of the cabin the boot?

i still think the JR is far better looking, but the JRX beats the 66, and is probably only as ugly as a 350/120/130..... maybe its my age starting to show, i like the things from the 60's!
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 20:43   #105 (permalink)
 
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Blades - look at the pics... easy to tell.
Pilot seat is right seat... left side has clamshell doors for pax/utility loading
Boot - ? That side is only pilot door with fixed split rear.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 00:50   #106 (permalink)
 
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which side is the pilot seat?
Right side with no initial plans to certify for left seat PIC at this time.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 04:35   #107 (permalink)
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I like the new look of the Jetranger, although as many have already claimed, the skids are too short.
Forgetting the fact that it's probably unpractical with so short skids, more importantly it looks unproportional.
No worries, I have to tools of a professional (Microsoft Paint), and I made things right !

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Old 27th Feb 2014, 07:40   #108 (permalink)
 
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Well, some people think they are ugly, but they have sold 94 of them already.

fats
Even if Bell sells 32000 of it, i will still find it ugly !
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 09:16   #109 (permalink)
 
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I had to zoom in the pictures to figure it out.

Blades going the right way, that's a start.

Boot, on the HAI picture of the white one there is a little door below the maint step and light. It looked about 1 for hi by 2 feet long. I thought it might have been a boot... Tiny thing probably big enough to fit a helmet...

Pilot seat, when will they figure out that these things fly sooo much better from the left. When you are heavy, the helicopter uses less power and you can see so much more if you let the nose run around to the right a bit.

Front seat passenger don't mess with the controls, they can't reach them

And if you want to do lift work, it's sooo much easier leaning out the LHS.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 10:04   #110 (permalink)
 
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They did a good job of making that fugly then! I thought it was April 1st for a moment....
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 10:06   #111 (permalink)
 
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Well, I think r88's version with the longer skids looks quite nice - although a shorter blunter nose might have been better.

Keep in mind, I've not yet got my PPL so this may be a naive comment. I played with the build your own helicopter tool and was surprised that a rotor brake was an optional extra!

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Old 27th Feb 2014, 10:33   #112 (permalink)
 
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I think it looks quite nice - bearing in mind most helicopters are a bit compromised in the beauty department.

Agree it needs more substantial skids, but it would also benefit from a more flattering colour scheme design.

To my eyes, the G2 Cabri doesn't look quite finished - a bit too softly styled - needs tinted glass and I've also never seen one with a really stylish paint job.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 11:18   #113 (permalink)
 
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Think of it as one less thing to go wrong and have to spend money on. Plenty of helicopters without rotorbrakes.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 11:19   #114 (permalink)
 
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Nearly 500hp and can only lift 1600lbs ????
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 11:49   #115 (permalink)
 
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Like any pre certified aircraft.. Those are probably conservative figures.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 12:48   #116 (permalink)
 
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A friend of mine who was a Phantom pilot (F-4) pointed out to me once that helicopters don't really fly.
They are so ugly, the earth repels them.
With that in mind, perhaps the "it's ugly" as a criticism can be relegated to the dust bin where it belongs when evaluating whether or not a rotary wing aircraft will fit someone's needs.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 15:38   #117 (permalink)
 
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RE: r88's Photoshop


Looks 100x's better with the long skids.

Without 'em, it"s the retarded kid at school.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 23:17   #118 (permalink)
 
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Well , ugly or not , it will be the best value new helicopter out there by some big margin !! Look at the avionics , the fadec engine from turbomeca giving 500hp and 3.5 hrs endurance ....
Look at the huge interior and massive luggage compartment . Then put the incredible Long Ranger head etc etc onto the package .
It should be double the price of an R66 but is scarcely 50k more I think !!
It is undoubtedly a massive loss leader and I believe will go up massively in price over the next few years .....that's why I couldn't resist it . I have ordered one !!!!
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 23:19   #119 (permalink)
 
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Matt ...... I think you were that kid Not a very clever comment !!
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 23:38   #120 (permalink)
 
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Congratulations Nigel, I have been involved in this project for 2 years, I am just leaving LA to return home, we have 6 for the UK ordered and over 120 signed orders at the show with more being completed which will be near to 200.
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