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Old 24th Mar 2015, 20:58
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ps Snarlie

we in the RAF
Having looked at your profile I'm not sure that's entirely accurate either!

Get your facts straight son.

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Old 25th Mar 2015, 06:49
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Jim, nothing in that Purdah document is relevant - shutting a SAR flight is not new policy or even vaguely political - the purdah is about avoiding political bias through advertising or patronage.

Sadly it must just be a complete lack of spine from someone in power.
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Old 25th Mar 2015, 07:04
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http://m.thetelegram.com/Business/20...e-helicopter/1

Don't know why they're bothering. According to some, those push out windows aren't needed anyway.
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Old 25th Mar 2015, 07:33
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Jim, nothing in that Purdah document is relevant - shutting a SAR flight is not new policy or even vaguely political - the purdah is about avoiding political bias through advertising or patronage.

Sadly it must just be a complete lack of spine from someone in power.

I agree.




(Let's hope recent reminders to serving personnel about the use of social media were designed to protect us from guys with machetes and not to protect the management.)
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Old 25th Mar 2015, 07:38
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The Telegram: Helicopter escape research.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 06:58
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The gap in SAR coverage between Dalcross and Humberside - was it just a little bit too much for the O&G industry safety managers?
North Sea search helicopters get Ł60m oil and gas pledge - BBC News
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 08:36
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Originally Posted by Older and Wiser
The gap in SAR coverage between Dalcross and Humberside - was it just a little bit too much for the O&G industry?
............ Yes.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 18:42
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Looking like S-92 weather all week around here.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 20:19
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Big day tomorrow. Best of luck to all. Let's not forget many thanks to them that have stood down. I can't be are the banned bar but I'll have a pint with you.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 20:33
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Question

Looking like S-92 weather all week around here.
I think whether it's dark or not will be a bigger concern than the weather in the weeks and months ahead. How exactly is this being allowed to go ahead? I thought being NVG capable from day one was a requirement of the contract.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 20:39
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Love this quote from the mum of one of the SAR boys about why the party had been cancelled....

“Maybe they feared they would slag off the new service but they wouldn’t do that, they are responsible human beings.

Maybe somebody should point her to Pprune......😉
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 21:19
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Quote from Satsuma;

I thought being NVG capable from day one was a requirement of the contract.
Care to expand? What has been declared in terms of NVG capability?
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 21:31
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Originally Posted by Sevarg
Big day tomorrow. Best of luck to all. ... ...



"So you're moving to a new office?"


[Borrowed from Training 2005: Kintail Mountain Rescue Team in Wester Ross, Scotland.)
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 21:50
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Originally Posted by satsuma
... ... I thought being NVG capable from day one was a requirement of the contract.
My understanding is that Humberside have been ahead of Inverness on NVG training. You would expect that when Inverness's problems with aircraft and storm damage are considered. Two levels of training objective may exist for NVG: one for those with previous experience and one for those without.

There are a lot of people in the training system and only two bases to staff. Nautical Twilight start/end: 05h 22m/21h 22m and getting better every day. Faced with the possibility of contract penalties and reputational damage, what do you think is going to happen?

Change-over is expected as planned.
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 22:01
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ARCC have now been instructed to go ahead with all new taskings as per the handover agreement. All new call signs kick in now as well.
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Sea King past my house this morning!

Just before 0800 this morning the mighty Sea King roared past my house at speed and low level and looked like it was headed for the West Coast. Could it be on it's way to a job?
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Old 1st Apr 2015, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Oldsarbouy
Just before 0800 this morning the mighty Sea King roared past my house at speed and low level and looked like it was headed for the West Coast. Could it be on it's way to a job?
And probably low over Dalcross as well then. :-)

Welcome to the new era BUT overlap would appear to be in progress.

Keep calm and carry on.
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Just a big thank you to all the military SAR boys and girls for "being there" over the years, and for the many lives you have saved. Thanks too, and a pat on the side, for the Seakings, and aeroplane that did a brilliant job as did the Wessex and Whirlwind in earlier years.
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Sea King past my house this morning!
Just before 0800 this morning the mighty Sea King roared past my house at speed and low level and looked like it was headed for the West Coast. Could it be on it's way to a job?
The Bristow S92 assumed its first rescue callsign this morning whilst on its way to a Mountain Rescue at Ben Nevis.
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Old 1st Apr 2015, 13:11
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Originally Posted by shetlander
The Bristow S92 assumed its first rescue callsign this morning whilst on its way to a Mountain Rescue at Ben Nevis.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...lands-32144002


S-92 heading south over Loch Ness. 1435h BST.

Confirmed on AIS track (MMSI 111232511).

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