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Old 8th Aug 2012, 13:19   #1 (permalink)
 
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Bell test ship crash

Seems like the crew handled this one well or were just lucky. Either way glad the're OK.




Bell Helicopter test aircraft forced to make emergency landing; crew safe



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Two Bell Helicopter pilots flying a Bell 214ST test aircraft walked away safe after making an emergency landing Tuesday in an Ellis County cotton field.

Initial reports indicated that the aircraft, which is being used to test technology and components planned for use in new helicopter models, either lost power to the tail rotor or had the tail rotor break apart.

“It’s one of the most complicated things that can go wrong flying a helicopter,” said Jon Kettles, a Dallas aviation attorney and former Army helicopter pilot.

The tail rotor is the primary means of controlling the direction of a helicopter, which naturally wants to rotate under the main rotor.

The two-man flight crew apparently conducted a near textbook emergency landing, only to have the helicopter tip onto its side when one of the wheels dug into the soft dirt.

Photographs of the accident site show the four-bladed main rotor badly crumpled and no sign of the tail rotor. The fuselage itself does not appear to have been badly damaged.

Bell spokesman William Schroeder said the accident is under investigation by both Bell and the National Transportation Safety Board, but would not otherwise comment or provide details about the aircraft and what it was doing.

“Our focus at this time is on the safety and well being of our crew members,” Schroeder said. He did not identify the two-man crew.

“We cannot speculate as to the possible causes of the incident; however, it will be fully investigated. We are in contact with National Transportation Safety Board and fully cooperating with relevant authorities.”

The 214 ST, originally developed in the late 1970s as a military helicopter for Iran and sold commercially after the fall of the Shah, is the biggest helicopter ever produced by the Fort Worth-based company. Only 96 were ever built, according to aviation references.

In its original state the twin engine aircraft with a large version of the trademark Bell two-bladed rotor could haul 15-17 passengers with a maximum takeoff weight of about 17,500 pounds. By comparison a fully-loaded Bell 212, a 1970s twin-engine version of the original Huey models, could take off at about 11,000 pounds total weight.

The aircraft being flown Tuesday was acquired by Bell less than two years ago to use as a vehicle for testing of components for new aircraft, particularly the 525 Relentless commercial helicopter that the company announced in February that it planned to develop.

The aircraft was probably testing main rotor components, was heavily instrumented and transmitting live data back to Bell engineers on the ground at the time of the accident, according to a source close to the company.

With that data engineers should be able to determine what happened, the sequence of events, and perhaps even why, the source said, although the tail rotor assembly had not yet been found late in the day.

Bell spokesman Schroeder declined to comment on whether the accident would be a set back to the new helicopter development effort.

- Bob Cox

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 13:45   #2 (permalink)
 
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good everyone is ok

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 13:52   #3 (permalink)
 
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Handled it well?

Well....handled it maybe!

But then whenever you can run away...walk away...even crawl away....and the aircraft be repairable....it was a successful outcome.

Helicopter pilots uninjured after crash landing in Ellis County | kens5.com San Antonio
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 14:25   #4 (permalink)
 
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Hello,

Looks like a 214ST, isn't it ?
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 15:32   #5 (permalink)

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My guess - 212

Not 214ST
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 15:36   #6 (permalink)
 
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Doghouse is from a 412... 4 blades, but it has wheels. The three large windows on the side dont help...

My guess is 412ST

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 15:55   #7 (permalink)
 
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Maybe the former LN-OMM 214ST.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 15:59   #8 (permalink)
 
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A bit of Plastic Padding and it will be right as rain!
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 16:06   #9 (permalink)
 
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214ST test aircraft with 4BR, associated with the 525 program. Being referred to as a '414' by the local press.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 16:08   #10 (permalink)
 
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I stand corrected, you are spot on, but that rotor looks weird.

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 17:28   #11 (permalink)
 
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Definitely a 214st
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 18:26   #12 (permalink)
 
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Some video footage of the aircraft here:

Chopper crash in Ellis County by Jon Sasser on Socialcam - Aug 07

A wheeled 214ST with what looks like a four blade main rotor or could it be the 525's five blade rotor?
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The blades are "cuffed" at the mast end....my guess is the 525 rotorhead test bed.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 19:21   #14 (permalink)
 
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Bell have owned this ship for two years and it is being used to develop parts for the Relentless. Four blade head heavily intsrument for data colletion. T/R failure considered here as a possible cause.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 22:35   #15 (permalink)
 
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They handled it better then you ever could! You were not there so do not comment.

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Old 8th Aug 2012, 23:19   #16 (permalink)
 
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Has the Yankey/zulu rotor system. on an old 214st.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 01:49   #17 (permalink)
 
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If I were CHC, I would be very annoyed that it was still painted in my colours
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 02:01   #18 (permalink)
 
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They handled it better then you ever could! You were not there so do not comment.

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Oh dear. Incoming!!
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 03:11   #19 (permalink)
 
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bell 214ST - Helicopter Database

Is it old LN-OMM from Norway? Thought it was white with a red band midship when it flew for HS.
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 03:15   #20 (permalink)
 
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MG....sorry....wrong!

I have two folks on my ignore list....and as Tcabot is at top of my list....I do not have to read what he posts here as it is a pure waste of time to do so.

Thus....one simply considers the source and ignores the comment if wishing to remain polite.

He can talk to himself all he wants as the only one that he bothers is himself. I fear he does seem to lose even those arguments as well.

Some folks just never get the knack of good Sarcasm as it is too deep for them to understand being of shallow levels of sophistication as they are.
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