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Old 3rd Mar 2012, 23:05   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sky Soldiers Cobra: Top Gear crash

Anybody with further info?


Edited to add, just learnt both crew OK and was being used in the filming of a "Top Gear Korea" program.

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Old 4th Mar 2012, 04:08   #2 (permalink)
 
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Another case of a sudden onset of intense gravity???
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 08:04   #3 (permalink)
 
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** Notice created 3/2/2012 Notice 1 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 197LE Make/Model: AH-1 Description: BELL HELICOPTER
Date: 03/01/2012 Time: 1811

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: COOLIDGE State: AZ Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ENCOUNTERED A HYDCRAULIC FAILURE AND CRASHED

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:


OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER


FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 03/02/2012
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 11:38   #4 (permalink)
 
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Cat's wait to hear Clarkeson's superlatives when this episode is released.
"Top Gear Korea" is the Korean Version of the show and isn't hosted by Clarkson/Hammond/May
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 01:03   #5 (permalink)
 
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Cobra Crash Arizona during filming Top Gear

No serious injuries.

Helicopter crashes during Top Gear Korea stunt

Aftermath




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Old 5th Mar 2012, 03:31   #6 (permalink)
 
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Stills from the video:





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Old 5th Mar 2012, 11:44   #7 (permalink)

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being used in the filming of a "Top Gear Korea" program.
Enough to give the pilots "Top Gear Diahorrea"

Glad they're OK.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 14:52   #8 (permalink)
 
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Both pilots ok is what matters, the cobra is obviously very good aircraft to crash in.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 18:15   #9 (permalink)
 
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oh I see what happened.....the mast fell out..... no wonder it crashed!!!! lucky crew - thank goodness.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 00:55   #10 (permalink)
 
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Top Gun Heli crash filmed from the Cockpit

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Old 8th Apr 2012, 01:07   #11 (permalink)
 
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those Cobra's are build like tank
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 01:37   #12 (permalink)
 
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Looking at the in-cockpit footage, there seems to be a recurring theme in these recent accidents on video!
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 09:40   #13 (permalink)
 
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Recurring theme

That'd be the bit where it hits the ground.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 10:05   #14 (permalink)
 
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That'd be the bit where it hits the ground.
Yes, that tends to be a common theme to most accidents....

I was referring to attempts to reverse the direction of travel, using a vertical manoeuvre, with insufficient height....
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 10:08   #15 (permalink)
 
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those Cobra's are build like tank
Camera system and crew appear to be quite rugged too !

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Old 8th Apr 2012, 10:56   #16 (permalink)
 
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They crashed very close (less than 150 ft in my estimation) and on a near direct track toward the main ground camera crew and production team.
The ground shot of the car at the beginning of the clip shows a black vehicle and a camera crane in the backgound, the same vehicle is pictured by the on board camera directly in front of the cobra as it hits.

It is a very wide lens!

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Old 8th Apr 2012, 11:28   #17 (permalink)
 
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Looking at the in-cockpit footage, there seems to be a recurring theme in these recent accidents on video!
That's what came to my mind as well...

That is if the camera angle is not totally misleading.
If not I have no idea how it should have sustained that apparent Angle of Bank without significant altitude loss!?
I mean the cobra is not a sustained 9g machine...

Besides that from the Cockpit video there seem to be no strange noises, nothing that would really point towards a mechanical failure.

Hope to be proven wrong though.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 13:05   #18 (permalink)
 
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At the beginning of this tread it says "hydraulic failure" and if i recall properly the Cobra has the same head and blades and some other components and I assume the same kind of hydraulic systems the B214B and the B214ST have.

If you lose both hyd systems in those aircrafts every controls seize, not much you can do except go where ever the aircraft is going at the time of the malfunction. That is probably why you don't see any reactions from the pilot in the last moment. There is nothing he can do.

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Old 8th Apr 2012, 15:03   #19 (permalink)
 
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If it's a standard Cobra with the Kaman blades, evidently one hydraulic system (of the two installed) isn't up to the job of keeping the blades where they should be.
This was found during testing by Bell of the Kaman blades, and accepted by the Army. At least that's what I remember hearing.
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The Cobra head has absolutely no commanality with the 214B or 214ST.

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