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Old 25th Mar 2011, 12:58   #21 (permalink)
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There really have to be two-and-a-half crews for each aircraft – one on, one off and one half for leave cover
Any takers for working that roster?
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Old 17th May 2011, 10:33   #22 (permalink)
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It's all been very quiet recently, some would say too quiet.

DFT depositions to the northern bases. The one who should not be mentioned (allegedly) cleared of any (alleged) wrong doing.

Anyone like to share some informed opinion, or failing that we can just do what we always do and resort to wild speculation....
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Old 19th May 2011, 09:25   #23 (permalink)
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BBC News - MPs to take coastguard changes evidence in Stornoway

I suppose it would seem logical that any decision/announcement regarding rotary assets would be tied in with the results of the MCA review

Keep waiting....
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Old 19th May 2011, 14:07   #24 (permalink)
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Let's see what the updated Vision 2020 brings pre summer hols eh?
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Old 19th May 2011, 17:48   #25 (permalink)
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Sorry - mis-read the title - I thought this was a thread about the future of the post titled ' UK SAR' after the SAR-H fiasco.......

.......like I said, sorry.
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Old 17th Jun 2011, 08:07   #26 (permalink)
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Made and paid for by Eurocopter I'm told but not a bad bit of advertising for Bristow....

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Old 18th Jun 2011, 14:46   #27 (permalink)
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^^ Nice video.

As you said a good bit of advertising for Bristow’s, especially if they are thinking to go in for the interim contract. (Not that i am saying they are, before I get a backlash)
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 15:56   #28 (permalink)
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In the last issue of rotor hub it was mentioned that a decision on the interim was due in Q2, so eyes peeled for autmumn then?
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 18:35   #29 (permalink)
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While we wait....well done to all the crew of R104.
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Old 22nd Jun 2011, 08:08   #30 (permalink)
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Good job - well done
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Old 22nd Jun 2011, 23:55   #31 (permalink)
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Sly...I think you might find that the Autumn decision is about what to do and how long to take doing I.....not what the solution and contract might be.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 22:03   #32 (permalink)
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Well done Dave and Simon.

I had the pleasure of flying with Dave for nearly 7 years when I was DCP at Lee SAR with the S61N late 80's, early 90's. In my time there, Dave was awarded the CCG's Commendation for Meritorious Service in 1992 too.

I am sure Dave won't mind me mentioning this but he has written a book of his life in SAR "On the Wire" and had it published. If you are interested then PM me and I will let you have the link to the publisher

John Whale

John, I wouldn't have a problem with you posting the link here,


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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 22:40   #33 (permalink)
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Hi.....would appreciate the book link please.

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Old 24th Jun 2011, 09:50   #34 (permalink)
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"On The Wire"

Thanks SP.

For Tallsar and anyone else who is interested, this is the link to Dave's Book I have checked the link and it works for me but if you have any problems using the link, then PM me.

Bookstore Search Results

I have bought the book and am awaiting delivery of it

John Whale
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Old 24th Jun 2011, 19:33   #35 (permalink)
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Thanks TC ...works well for me...Cheers
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Old 29th Jun 2011, 22:03   #36 (permalink)
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On The Wire

Dave's book arrived today. If you have done SAR, it is worth getting this book

Best wishes

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Old 11th Jul 2011, 16:18   #37 (permalink)
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Search-and-rescue plans unveiled
The Independent, Monday, 11 July 2011

Plans to keep search-and-rescue helicopter services going at four key centres were announced by the Government today.

The existing Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) contract is set to expire at bases at Portland in Dorset, Lee-on-Solent in Hampshire and at Shetland and the Isle of Lewis in Scotland.

Transport Secretary Philip Hammond said today that the Department for Transport would shortly run a competition to procure an interim service at the bases for a period of up to five years.

He added that this contract would be similar to the arrangements currently in place for the bases.

Today's move follows Mr Hammond's announcement in February this year that the Government was halting a £6 billion procurement programme for search-and-rescue helicopters because the preferred bidder had admitted it had access to commercially sensitive information.

Under the privatisation plans, preferred bidder Soteria would have provided US Sikorsky helicopters to fly search-and-rescue missions from 12 bases, including ones operated by the Royal Navy and the RAF.

The Sikorsky aircraft would replace the Sea King helicopters which the Ministry of Defence plans to withdraw from service in 2016.

Mr Hammond said today that the RAF and Navy operations would continue while consideration was given "to the long-term provision of search-and-rescue helicopter capability".

He said he would announce the Government's long-term intentions later in the year.

Meanwhile, the Government is expected to announce shortly that it is watering down plans for big cutbacks in the coastguard service.

Originally, the Government proposed that the number of coastguard centres be reduced from 18 to eight, with only three remaining open 24 hours a day.

But it is believed that the Government will soon say that 11 coastguard stations will be kept on and that all these remaining stations will be 24-hour operational.

Job losses are expected to be fewer than the 250 originally planned.

The original proposals were criticised in a recent report by the House of Commons Transport Committee, which said that evidence it had received during its inquiry into coastguards had raised "serious concerns that safety will be jeopardised if these proposals proceed".

Committee chairman Louise Ellman said the coastguard proposals were "seriously flawed" and there was little support for them.
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 19:42   #38 (permalink)
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Another interesting quote from his statement today...

'The RAF and Royal Navy will continue to provide coverage from their SAR bases as at present, while I consider the options for the long-term provision of SAR helicopter capability.

'I will inform the House later in the year of the government’s intentions for the longer term. The procurement strategy we adopt for the longer term will seek to ensure that the Ministry of Defence is able to complete its previously announced intention to withdraw its Sea Kings from service in 2016.'
...implies that whatever the longer term strategy might be there wont be a huge lead in time to get a full civilian service up & running by 2016.

Is acquiring new airframes in the numbers needed in that sort of timescale realistic?

Is acquiring suitably trained crews in the numbers needed in that sort of timescale realistic also?

As I understood it the Soteria transition was phased for these reasons & should have started about now in order to allow for the Sea King's demise in 2016. It will be an interesting bit of procurement & project management to replicate that in a significantly shorter timescale whether or not the longer term contract is for 5, 10 or 25 yrs.

More interesting times ahead
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 21:30   #39 (permalink)
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Here we go again then.......:confused
I think you are right SW....there seems little time from one contract to another. Looks like the IPT will be busy......
As for the Soteria transition period....I think that was more lengthy than really neccessary driven by HMG rather than what was thought possible...so maybe there is room for some compacting....and of course under the original plan, Mil SAR SK wasn't to finally go from the last few Flts until 2017.....so any winning bidder is going to have to step lightly to get it all to work!

Where's Crab when you need him?
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 22:15   #40 (permalink)
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No idea where Crab is, but if you need a SAR pilot, or a bloke who worked on the Cyprus COMR bids, the interim CG SAR contract and SAR-H itself, I'm still available. (though Tallsar could also no doubt claim at least 4 out of those 5!)

still needing a job!
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