Police ASU jobs adverts in FI

[SECRET SERVICE]

Hello fellow Ppruners

I've just been shopping and located todays (26-10-09) Flight International and noticed there were 2 helicopter flying jobs advertised within the police
aviation sector. Therefore, I thought I'd create a thread to let you all know the following information:

1) Nothern Island Police Service are looking to recruit a line pilot within their police ASU flying either an EC134/EC145.

2) The West Midlands Police are also looking to recruit a line pilot within their police ASU on the EC135.

Hope this gives you all the "heads up" and wish you well. Wished I could apply....nevermind!!!!

All the best

SS

[Droopy]

RUC as was/PSNI pay has always been on the low side.

[Brilliant Stuff]

PSNI are planning on getting a 145 they haven't got one yet. There were also thinking of getting a 365 looks like they made their mind up.

Speaking of which the Devon&Cornwall is 30% completed.

[206Fan]

Is the 145 replacing the 135 or will both helicopters be working together?

I noticed they have a 355 floating around here aswel as the 135 some days!

[happysod1412]

There keeping the 135 aswell as getting a 145 too!

[Blind Bob]

I believe the 355 is on contract from Veritair Aviation, covering the gap until the PSNI receive their new machine.

[MightyGem]

Looks like the PSNI are going direct employed as PremiAir currently supply the pilots. Salary seems abit low for direct employed. I wouldn't get out of bed for that. Still, they will probably be looking for 4 or 5, I would think.

[Brilliant Stuff]

Low well low and this is without the living expenses and all this for a raaaaaather rough place.

There will be a couple of extra jobs becoming available over the next 6 months. I recently have been told.

[serf]

Any catholic females applying?

[NWSRG]

Slight aside, but a local yoof was arrested here last week for endangering said PSNI machine...the use of a laser to 'dazzle' the pilots.

Not sure how they identified the guilty party though...BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Teenager bailed over laser attack

The EC135 is used extensively...a common site over Belfast...once upon a time I counted a total of 6 Lynxes and Gazelles over West Belfast at the same time...the EC135 is all we get now! Shouldn't grumble...

[misbourne]

Unless your E-Military is there any point applying ?

I understand that the Met were advertising recently and know of 3 pilots all with in excess of 4000 hours (On shore)and instrument ratings some with a great deal of HEMS experience who didnt even get an interview

Do you have to be able to walk on water to get a look in on these jobs, or are they avaliable to us self improvers

[windowseatplease]

I think it's more who you know, or what unit/squadron you were in.

[windowseatplease]

Re: NI job requirements

· Demonstrable flying experience in operations above 5,000 feet above ground level (agl).

Err, Why???

[SilsoeSid]

Unless your E-Military is there any point applying ?

I understand that the Met were advertising recently and know of 3 pilots all with in excess of 4000 hours (On shore)and instrument ratings some with a great deal of HEMS experience who didnt even get an interview

Do you have to be able to walk on water to get a look in on these jobs, or are they avaliable to us self improvers

I think it's more who you know, or what unit/squadron you were in.

Ignorance works both ways in this world and this subject is talked about plenty enough here on Pprune.

I don't know about the score at PSNI, but at W.Mids the line pilot distribution is presently 50/50 civ/ex-mil and could soon be 70/25 in favour of the non ex-mil, so best buy a pipe.

Insurance I believe dictates the minimum requirements and just like any other job, if you don't have these minima then it is unlikely that you will be offered it. In addition, again just like any other job, even if you do meet the basic requirements or exceed them it doesn't necessarily mean that you will automatically get an interview.

One word of advice, if you are prepared to listen, would be to visit some units, especially the ones you might like to work at...I am surprised that people apply for jobs at places they have never been to. The first time that some people visit the unit is the day of the interview itself and only then because the interview is being held there!


There are plenty of 'self improvers' in the pilot seats of police helicopters here and around the world, it's simply that they got on with it and didn't sit around complaining about how hard done by they are and how much the industry owes them! When one leaves the mil, there is no 'resettlement package' for the aviation world, job offers don't just simply land on the doormat and it's a big realisation that you are now simply another pilot out there looking for a job. Most of what you had done has no relevance to the outside world. When it comes down to it, you still have to go out there and get on with it.

These are the people that I am proud to say are my colleagues and friends no matter where their flying career started!

[SilsoeSid]

Re: NI job requirements

Demonstrable flying experience in operations above 5,000 feet above ground level (agl).

Err, Why???

Leftovers from a fixed wing job description perhaps.


I'm surprised you didn't pick up on;

500 hours twin turbine or 1000 hours single turbine helicopter
50 hours flight time with sole reference to instruments

[Helipilot1982]

Can someone please confirm what is meant by;

"Relevent Onshore Experience"

Do they mean - prior Police experience, just plain onshore flying experience ( eg instructing, charter, sight seeing, photo etc), low level operation experience (eg pipeline, electricity board, military etc) ?

I fly Offshore and would like to fly for the Police, HEMS but i am confused with what they mean by this. Can I simply just fly 500 hrs over land to meet this requirement regardless of what task I was carrying out or are they looking for specific experience?

Thanks HP 1982

[SilsoeSid]

I guess that's one of those questions that can only be answered with...

...If you have to ask what it is, you haven't got it!

[ForceTrim]

· Demonstrable flying experience in operations above 5,000 feet above ground level (agl).

Err, Why???

Due to regular high level ops up to FL100..

[Helinut]

The low salaries for the PSNI job are probably to do with internal comparisons between these jobs and similar jobs within PSNI aviation.

Those who want to live in NI are a select bunch. It would not suit many. However, they only need to find a few pilots.

[Sulley]

Hp1982 unfortunately that will depend on which unit !
The reason is historically all Police HEMS were ex millitary and as such the requirements were set by them.If you consider the average requirements for this type of flying then it is still quite difficult to obtain them if you're a civvy trained pilot.Specifically the twin time and the night time.It is however possible if you have a north sea background,but I would suggest that a purely north sea background (flying a helicopter like a plane) isn't wholly appropriate either.Hence a requirement for some form of on shore experience.What actually counts may well as I suggested depend on the interpretation of the unit.Best bet ask the chief pilot of the unit you're looking at.