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Old 12th September 2008, 23:16   #21 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Speaking of manufacturer's tech reps, Bob Pearson, the Bell Helicopter tech rep for Alaska is terrific. He stops in regularly, even though our L4 has been squawk free for the two years we have had it. We are going to a 407 later this fall, and Bob Pearson was just in to discuss that transition, and will return when our ship arrives. He has also arranged for his counterpart to meet us at the completion center, and go over the software on the laptop for the 407's FADEC.
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Old 16th September 2008, 13:51   #22 (permalink)
 
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I'll have the B3 over the "4-0-Lemon" any day
Not saying that I like the service I get from Turbomeca, but the product is great.

rotors88-The 407 might be more reliable than the B3 in India, but definately not in Africa or Aus?

But hay-some of us like Eurocopter and some of us like Bell

The dual hyraulic B3 MAUW goes up to 2370kg.

Just my 2c
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Old 16th September 2008, 15:10   #23 (permalink)
 
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TMY I totally agree with you. The B3 outstrips the 407 any day. I recently took a B3 up to 10500', 80% fuel on board, 6 pax plus pilot......... brought her into the hover, pulled 100% onto the FLI and she climbed in the hover at 650 fpm. Outside temp was 16 degrees celcius. I challenge any 407 to do that..........

Not to mention, the B3 is so much more better ergonimically designed than the 407. I don't remember being uncomfortable ever in the B3. the 407, is another story.

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Old 18th September 2008, 18:58   #24 (permalink)
 
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I can only confirm your statement about performance. The last two fire season I was flying the AS350B3 and was working side by side with the B 407, Lama, SA316, AS350B2 and 350FX at different altitudes and temperatures.

B3 vs. Lama/SA316
If it’s not to terrible hot and besides flying a circle around the Lama, the B3 will do a bit better up to about 9000 ft. SA316 is no match against the B3.

B3 vs. B2/FX:
The B2 dies at altitude and temperature. The FX does perform well but still not close to a B3 and for the Fuel consumption and speed I had an interesting comparison between the FX and B3.
Long story short, we both topped off fuel and flying from Fort St. John, BC to Fort Nelson, BC. The weather wasn’t all that great and he had more local knowledge of the area so I followed the FX all the way to Fort Nelson. We were cruising about 110kt IAS and the FX pulling MCP 94% TQ vs. B3 only 70 to 75 % TQ. Pulling MCP in the B3 gives you an IAS of 125 – 130Kt. In Fort Nelson we both topped off again and surprisingly the FX burned 16 liters more (and a black tail boom). I know cruising at 70 % reduces the fuel consumption, but at MCP I would have been a bit faster too.

407 Vs. B3
The 407 is very fast at MSL and looks like handles very well and great to longline, but as soon as you get some elevation and temperature she is fading away. Put a different motor in a 407 or give that engine more air and besides being a four bladed Jet Ranger she probably would do ok.

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