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Old 3rd Dec 2015, 05:37
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I'd love it if they put a Solar T62 Titan in the G2. That would make for an exciting bird.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 15:49
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There is now one G2 registred in Turkey (TC-HFC) and Vizyon Havacılık seems to be the dealer for the country.
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 13:21
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In the US, you can fly the G2 in Oregon, Texas, Arizona and within few days in Illinois
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 15:27
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US Operators

I know the operator in Oregon, but who are the operators in Texas, Arizona and Illinois?
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 15:43
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Hello rick,


Texas Rotorwing Academy, Guidance Aviation and Midwest Helicopter Academy.
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About Midwest Helicopter Academy, they have released a video showing the reassembly of their N989HH (sn 1124) :


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Old 8th Feb 2016, 08:00
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According to the UK dealer (Cotswold Helicopter Centre), the number of G2 in UK will double this year to reach 28 at the end of the year ( 8 deliveries are expected in the next 5 months).
From HeliHub : HeliHub UK Guimbal Cabri fleet poised to double in 2016
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 19:28
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Cabri production overtakes R22

HeliHub Guimbal G2 Cabri overtakes Robinson R22, says GAMA

44 Cabris and only 34 R22 produced last year.

Cabri is the future.
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 19:38
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How many R44s + R22s?
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 20:10
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Hello John,

196 R44 (44 Raven I and 152 Raven II), that's the most produced civilian helicopter in the world last year !
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Bruno will be up there one day...
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 20:47
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I suppose that's the reason why they are bringing out the R44 Cadet.
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 23:00
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Maybe - it will need to be a lot cheaper that the R44 Raven I and I can't see how taking out the back seats and derating the engine will cut much from the price despite making the machine useless for charters.
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 02:51
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Flew one for the first time today and I must say I was pretty impressed with it. Privately owned in the Dallas area. I'm going back out Wednesday morning for another couple of hours. It leaves the R22 in the dust spec wise in my opinion.

There is the potential that in the future we may start a school with it, but we'll see how things go.
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Anyway, it remains a heap of steel sheets with rivets by thousands... alike the R66.

These guys are of course "too old to rock'n'roll" but they are no more "too young to die".

I had a look inside a '66 last week and I saw a 30 year'old dashboard with its pathetic display.
What the **** have these guys been doing during all that time, with all the money they won?

It's too late now, Robbie'boys, you're dead...
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 10:51
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I am with you on that Central,


One can always wonder how a small company like Guimbal, seems to
get it right on so many level, package all the right attributes, on technology, performance, maintainability...


Yet the organizations in a much more profitable position up the ladder like Robinson (the father of that very market) can seem so laggard on the innovation front.


Kodak Film invented the Digital Camera, why are they not leading the market today?, because the customer kept asking for film with better Red rendition, the customer was paying the money and the board was following the money.
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Old 16th Feb 2016, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Agile
One can always wonder how a small company like Guimbal, seems to
get it right on so many level, package all the right attributes, on technology, performance, maintainability...
Having considerable support from Eurocopter always helps...
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Originally Posted by vaqueroaero
Flew one for the first time today and I must say I was pretty impressed with it. Privately owned in the Dallas area. I'm going back out Wednesday morning for another couple of hours. It leaves the R22 in the dust spec wise in my opinion.

There is the potential that in the future we may start a school with it, but we'll see how things go.
You flew a Cabri? Or a Cadet?
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R44 Cadet - Market Segmentation

Originally Posted by krypton_john
I can't see how taking out the back seats and derating the engine will cut much from the price despite making the machine useless for charters.
I think this thing is called market segmentation.

Remember, the Raven I (on which the Cadet is based) is old technology. Development, tooling, etc., have long been paid for. It's the cash cow that now has to pay for future developments. In that sense, the bulk of the sales revenue from the Raven I is gross profit and goes against overheads. The Cost of Sale ("direct production cost") should be low, therefore allowing Robinson in principal to considerably discount the product where they feel fit, without making a direct loss on each Raven I helicopter produced.

In marketing speak, "two markets A and B are segmented if you can sell the same product at a different price point in market A, without affecting the price at which you can sell the product in market B". Often, artificially taking out features or introducing use limitation, is done for the sole purpose of creating such market segmentation.

In that sense, the "making the machine useless for charter" is a necessary condition and design feature (not an undesired compromise or concession). Only now can Robinson sell the Cadet at a much lower price (competing with Guimbal) without risk of destroying the profitability of the 4-seater charter chopper segment that they dominated so nicely for years.

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Originally Posted by Hot and Hi
You flew a Cabri? Or a Cadet?
Hello H and H,

The Cadet will be presented by Robinson at the HAI next month so vaqueroaero flew a G2 and there is only one (yet) private G2 in Dallas, the all white N852KP (sn 1122) !
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