Guimbal Cabri G2
Delivery ceremony of the 100th Cabri G2, Bruno Guimbal in front of his work
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Just NZ alone - 19 and 4 in Australia.
I don't know what the industry is like in AU any more but it might take a while for the uptake but when it does..................currently I think the cattle business is a bit depressed thanks to some misguided folks.
Someone will have to prove that the G2 can survive economically in the dust.
Just NZ alone - 19 and 4 in Australia.
I don't know what the industry is like in AU any more but it might take a while for the uptake but when it does..................currently I think the cattle business is a bit depressed thanks to some misguided folks.
Someone will have to prove that the G2 can survive economically in the dust.
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So the family's next flying toy could well be a G4 when it will arrive ! 
Sorry, but there is a country (very nice) here in Europe with a G2 rate per capita much higher, guess which one ?
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Sorry, but there is a country (very nice) here in Europe with a G2 rate per capita much higher, guess which one ?
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Sorry, but there is a country (very nice) here in Europe with a G2 rate per capita much higher, guess which one?
Will be there next week so I will ask!
My god ! of course "la Principauté de Monaco" is a state !
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Aircon
Regarding the Airconditioning on the Cabri, i would rather have an update of the air inlet in the front of the cabin to get a much better airflow inside the cockpit. Like the Robinsons for example.
Aircon is not really something i would order on my Cabri..
Aircon is not really something i would order on my Cabri..
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I am currently hour building on an R22, but have also looked into the G2 because the cost is only marginally more than the Robbo.
Does anyone have any first hand experience of the G2 vs R22?
Does anyone have any first hand experience of the G2 vs R22?
Hey tqmatch
You wanna live a long life??? Stay the hell away from Crapinson Flimsicopter the greatest peice of garbage ever built, it's a death trap.... Yes got plenty oF time on the G2 - she is a superbly built, robust machine!
Happy Happy
You wanna live a long life??? Stay the hell away from Crapinson Flimsicopter the greatest peice of garbage ever built, it's a death trap.... Yes got plenty oF time on the G2 - she is a superbly built, robust machine!
Happy Happy
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Ha ha Vertical Freedom & Freewheel! I consider myself to be somewhat hilarious, but those replies are waaay above my humour pay scale!
So, with Aye's to the left, and no's to the right - we are all right sided for the Robbo?
So, with Aye's to the left, and no's to the right - we are all right sided for the Robbo?
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Hello CRAN,
I was afraid that you ask me information but if it is just rumour that you want, here we go :
The studies of the G4 have begun but the choice of the engine has not been done (G4 with turbine on the way ?...)
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Hello CRAN,
I was afraid that you ask me information but if it is just rumour that you want, here we go :
The studies of the G4 have begun but the choice of the engine has not been done (G4 with turbine on the way ?...)
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Don't get me wrong, I am equally excited about the performance and safety features of the Cabri G2.
However I find it funny that whenever there is talk in these Forums about the best-selling motor car (be it a VW, or a Toyota Corolla) there are some Ferrari drivers or top of the range Unimog utility truck drivers who belittle those who drive around town in their Toyota Corollas, warning them that their "flimsy-wagons" are potential death traps.
I find this a bit rich, assuming that many of those Ferrari/Unimog aficionados do not actually own their top of the range vehicle, but are lowly paid employed 'bus drivers' who in their personal capacity probably do not even own any car, and come to work every morning on an bicycle.
However I find it funny that whenever there is talk in these Forums about the best-selling motor car (be it a VW, or a Toyota Corolla) there are some Ferrari drivers or top of the range Unimog utility truck drivers who belittle those who drive around town in their Toyota Corollas, warning them that their "flimsy-wagons" are potential death traps.
I find this a bit rich, assuming that many of those Ferrari/Unimog aficionados do not actually own their top of the range vehicle, but are lowly paid employed 'bus drivers' who in their personal capacity probably do not even own any car, and come to work every morning on an bicycle.
Guimbal G4
Hi Henri,
Thanks for the reply...I had heard rumours that a turbine was being considered. For what it's worth, it really would be a sweet machine with the Guimbal suite of technologies and a RR300...but perhaps a little expensive. Maybe a Continental TSIOL-550, derated to 280hp? ...that would give the same derating level and a better power to weight ratio than the O-360J2A and it would hold its performance to much higher density altitude.
With G2 power-to-weight ratios this would give an all up weight of approximately 1350kg, of which 540kg could be useful. Cruising at around 230hp (65% of 350hp), should hit the much coverted 120kt cruise on a fuel burn of around 21US Gal/hr.
So with 3hrs fuel (170kg), it could carry 4 x 85kg passengers and 30kg of baggage.
Sell this for £350K (€420K) and I seriously doubt anyone would by an R44 again.
Perhaps we could call it the Guimbal G4 Cran!
Thanks again for the reply.
CRAN
Thanks for the reply...I had heard rumours that a turbine was being considered. For what it's worth, it really would be a sweet machine with the Guimbal suite of technologies and a RR300...but perhaps a little expensive. Maybe a Continental TSIOL-550, derated to 280hp? ...that would give the same derating level and a better power to weight ratio than the O-360J2A and it would hold its performance to much higher density altitude.
With G2 power-to-weight ratios this would give an all up weight of approximately 1350kg, of which 540kg could be useful. Cruising at around 230hp (65% of 350hp), should hit the much coverted 120kt cruise on a fuel burn of around 21US Gal/hr.
So with 3hrs fuel (170kg), it could carry 4 x 85kg passengers and 30kg of baggage.
Sell this for £350K (€420K) and I seriously doubt anyone would by an R44 again.
Perhaps we could call it the Guimbal G4 Cran!
Thanks again for the reply.
CRAN
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My first car was a Mazda 323.
I thought it was great, I had an absolute ball in it, learned a few lessons about judgement and my own driving ability, got a couple of roots in it, broke a few bits and had them fixed (on the car) and eventually moved it on in exchange for a much later model Mazda.
It was then that I realised just how crap my first car was. Heating didnt really work, no aircon, that quaint manual choke, manual window winders etc. along with really useful stuff like having dust settle on the rear window on dirt roads and require manual removal. The headlights didnt have to have drain holes to let water out. I didn't have to consider parking on a slope in case I needed to clutch start it etc.
I understood then why progress made a difference to your life, even before considering the airbags, seatbelt pretensioners, robust cabin design and collapsable steering wheel, all of which were absent in my first car.
Would I get in one again? No. Would I have moved on sooner had I realised the advantages? Yes. Am I glad my kids don't have to run the same risk? Yes.
Why should we accept helicopters with the same shortcomings?
I thought it was great, I had an absolute ball in it, learned a few lessons about judgement and my own driving ability, got a couple of roots in it, broke a few bits and had them fixed (on the car) and eventually moved it on in exchange for a much later model Mazda.
It was then that I realised just how crap my first car was. Heating didnt really work, no aircon, that quaint manual choke, manual window winders etc. along with really useful stuff like having dust settle on the rear window on dirt roads and require manual removal. The headlights didnt have to have drain holes to let water out. I didn't have to consider parking on a slope in case I needed to clutch start it etc.
I understood then why progress made a difference to your life, even before considering the airbags, seatbelt pretensioners, robust cabin design and collapsable steering wheel, all of which were absent in my first car.
Would I get in one again? No. Would I have moved on sooner had I realised the advantages? Yes. Am I glad my kids don't have to run the same risk? Yes.
Why should we accept helicopters with the same shortcomings?
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Freewheel,
It was then that I realised just how crap my first car was. Heating didnt really work, no aircon, that quaint manual choke, manual window winders etc. along with really useful stuff like having dust settle on the rear window on dirt roads and require manual removal. The headlights didnt have to have drain holes to let water out. I didn't have to consider parking on a slope in case I needed to clutch start it etc.
I think I may have bought it.....
Why should we accept helicopters with the same shortcomings? - I don't think we do. Not at the same time as accepting the price. But you can't compare cars to helicopters there is a massive economy of scale difference. I would love my students to fly the 109 instead of the 22, but they all turn a nasty shade of white when I tell them the cost
It was then that I realised just how crap my first car was. Heating didnt really work, no aircon, that quaint manual choke, manual window winders etc. along with really useful stuff like having dust settle on the rear window on dirt roads and require manual removal. The headlights didnt have to have drain holes to let water out. I didn't have to consider parking on a slope in case I needed to clutch start it etc.
I think I may have bought it.....
Why should we accept helicopters with the same shortcomings? - I don't think we do. Not at the same time as accepting the price. But you can't compare cars to helicopters there is a massive economy of scale difference. I would love my students to fly the 109 instead of the 22, but they all turn a nasty shade of white when I tell them the cost
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tqmatch,
Why not just find a nearby school with a G2 and book an hour or two with an instructor and decide for yourself?
The G2 has been around long enough now not to worry about it being new and untried. There have been very few accidents, and those have in the main (if not entirely) been pilot error (typically where the pilot has a temporary lapse forgetting that it has a fenestron, not a tail rotor, or that the rotor turns clockwise not anticlockwise...)
Matthew
Why not just find a nearby school with a G2 and book an hour or two with an instructor and decide for yourself?
The G2 has been around long enough now not to worry about it being new and untried. There have been very few accidents, and those have in the main (if not entirely) been pilot error (typically where the pilot has a temporary lapse forgetting that it has a fenestron, not a tail rotor, or that the rotor turns clockwise not anticlockwise...)
Matthew
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