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Old 27th June 2009, 22:40   #4621 (permalink)
 
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Just hooked on the bag of stone,and standing clear for lift!

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Old 27th June 2009, 22:46   #4622 (permalink)
 
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The highest mountain in the land,on the way down to Glencoe!

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Old 27th June 2009, 22:52   #4623 (permalink)
 
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March morning West Highlands.Shut down for brief with coms team.Day of lifts to come!

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Old 28th June 2009, 20:23   #4624 (permalink)
 
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Wasn't really a problem - we just put AS 350 Skates on it and pushed it into the hangar....



It didn't look like that bad a storm...



No forest fires today!

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Old 28th June 2009, 23:39   #4625 (permalink)
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Old 1st July 2009, 23:50   #4626 (permalink)
 
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Old 3rd July 2009, 23:16   #4627 (permalink)
 
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Here comes the rain:



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Old 3rd July 2009, 23:59   #4628 (permalink)
 
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Old 9th July 2009, 11:32   #4629 (permalink)
 
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Love the door on the Puma. How sensible.
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Old 9th July 2009, 13:16   #4630 (permalink)
 
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Mike Echo is looking good how many hours now on the airframe

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Old 9th July 2009, 18:06   #4631 (permalink)
 
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Nice shots Gordy.

I've always wondered this but is there a procedure they follow if the engine quits in the Long Ranger with the two guys roping down?

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Old 9th July 2009, 20:31   #4632 (permalink)
 
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Kangia:

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Nice shots Gordy.
Thanks---I cannot take credit, I was flying--The pictures were taken by our aviation safety officer Bob Barnes---who is also an amateur photographer.

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I've always wondered this but is there a procedure they follow if the engine quits in the Long Ranger with the two guys roping down?
There are different procedures depending upon the severity of the problem. According to the "book", the spotter can signal the rappellers to speed up---OR, if the engine quits, he can cut their ropes.

We discuss the issues often and I have come to the conclusion that if the engine quits, I am going to nose over slightly to gain some speed, (depending upon height---we rappell anywhere up to 250 feet), the guys on the line will go down with the aircraft, which initially will be descending quite slowly. They will not hit the ground that hard. We train typically in open areas first, then putting them into tight areas. If they are rappelling to a tight area, they will be drug into a tree and can cut themselves free from the rope quickly, and then climb down.

You bring up a good discussion---some of us, by the very nature of the work we do, will rarely have a good spot to auto into. We also do not have the luxury of flying above 500 feet all the time---in fact I rarely fly above 300 feet. There was a manual produced by the US military many years ago called "How to crash a helicopter". It discussed how to crash and survive in those situations where you had no choice. Here is a link for the document.

How to crash a helicopter
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Old 9th July 2009, 21:15   #4633 (permalink)
 
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My goal was always to put the guys on the ropes....or fixed line....down as gently as possible and make sure the aircraft did not fall on top of them. I accepted the fact the aircraft was going to be a write off but hopefully I could use it up in a manner that kept me as intact as possible.

When you have folks hanging under you.....you accept both a responsibility and liability as regard their safety and well being. In all of my helicopter flying....these were the times I most keenly felt the burden of doing things as perfect as possible. There seemed to be a heck of a lot of difference between carrying people inside the aircraft as compared to their being slung under you or rappelling down the rope. Rappelling generally went quickly and thus the exposure was not very long in duration but fixed roping/short haulling was an altogether thing. I had nightmares about dragging folks into something....or losing the entire line.

All of my rappelling and fixed line work was done in either Hueys or Chinooks so I had a lot of "aircraft" to use up if things went all wrong. Never worried about the Chinook as it had plenty of power but the old Huey being single engined posed an all together mindset.

The key was being ready to react should anything go even slightly wrong....delay could be a killer!

The importance of a very detailed brief for each flight...so everyone knew what to do....which way to run...or hide....and which way the aircraft would move went a long way in improving the chances for the guys on the ropes or on the ground.
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Old 9th July 2009, 21:50   #4634 (permalink)
 
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Thank's Gordy,

that's very interesting reading. Your techniques sound sensible alright. Would be fun to try and practice with some weights. Not the same obviously but I've known a couple of guys who had engine failures with loads on long lines. After releasing the load 'late' in the auto they were always amazed at the lack of damage to the load.

Looks like nice flying.

SASless I can understand why the feeling of having someone hanging outside your single engine machine would be a fairly intence one. Not sure I'd like that at all. I've become too used to two engines and plenty of wind. And everyone in seats.
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Old 12th July 2009, 05:59   #4635 (permalink)
 
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One for the little guys!
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Old 14th July 2009, 00:43   #4636 (permalink)
 
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Sorry guys, only fly a Cessna me'self, but can't help snapping when I see these magical machines.....can't help thinking you'd get a bit further if the propeller thingy on top went a bit faster.

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Old 14th July 2009, 15:20   #4637 (permalink)
 
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RNAS Yeovilton 2009

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Old 14th July 2009, 23:16   #4638 (permalink)
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Sweet shots chopper04

Il try and get a few at the RIAT and post them here!
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Old 20th July 2009, 10:45   #4639 (permalink)
 
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