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Old 20th Jul 2007, 10:11   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sa*ta Ba*ba*a Skyc*a** c*ash

With fai*ly s*v*** fi**s a**u*d Sa*ta Ba*ba*a, th*** was a d*amatic Skyc*a** c*ash *v** a w**k ag*** Va*i*us *****ts a** i* th* Sa*ta Ba*ba*a I*d****d**t, with this *h*t*: [IMG]htt*://m*dia**i*d****d**t**c*m/img/*h*t*s/2007/07/08/h*li11**J*G[/IMG] a*d th* Sa*ta Ba*ba*a **ws-***ss had s*m* *xclusiv* *h*t*s tak** by T*d Williams: I **ly hav* a sca* *f th* f***t *ag*, [IMG]htt*://www***ac*tt**c*m**au/gall**y/d/226-1/SB+S64**j*g[/IMG] [IMG]htt*://www***ac*tt**c*m**au/gall**y/d/230-2/T*d+Williams+*h*t***j*g[/IMG]
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Old 20th Jul 2007, 12:00   #2 (permalink)
 
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With*ut k**wi*g h*w fast th* film was it's ha*d t* say but it d**s*'t l**k lik* th* tail **t** is tu**i*g**
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l**ks lik* it is i* th* fi*st *h*t*, but **t i* th* s*c**d ***** L**ks lik* h* c*uld hav* d*****d his lu*ch b*x ** th* cyclic, but ma* was h* still ha*gi*' i* th*** ** th* c*ll*ctiv*, by th* l**k *f th* c**i*g a*gl*?? Wi*d ** th* day?? l**ks lik* by th* g*ass that h* was *ight i*t* th* ***vaili*g wi*d, *isi*g g**u*d, lad** ** mt?? h*w ma*y l*ft **w? **t all that ma*y t* sta*t with a*d th***'s b*** a f*w bit* th* di*t i* **c**t y*a*s
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With*ut k**wi*g h*w fast th* film was it's ha*d t* say but it d**s*'t l**k lik* th* tail **t** is tu**i*g**
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 06:12   #4 (permalink)
 
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Th* *h*t* s*qu**c* *f th* c*ash ca* b* f*u*d at htt*://www**wildla*dfi****c*m/*ics/zac******/zaca-h*l***htm
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 06:53   #5 (permalink)
 
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Bushfi**, Tha*ks! L**ki*g at this *h*t*, I w**d** if th* **s*wh**l cast** a*gl* w*uld hav* b*** *f a*y sig*ifica*c*: is this a ***mal taxi a*gl*, ** m*** *ff*ct tha* caus*? [IMG]htt*://www**wildla*dfi****c*m/*ics/zaca-h*l*/10**j*g[/IMG]
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 07:26   #6 (permalink)
 
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**ssibl* Dy*amic **ll*v**?
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 12:00   #7 (permalink)
 
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It's wi**d** Watchi*g that s**i*s *f *ictu**s is lik* watchi*g th* Za**ud** film *f th* JFK assassi*ati******** What st*ik*s m* as *dd is that sh*t as th* shi* has sta*t*d t* g* *v** but th* blad*s hav**'t hit y*t** Th*** a** tw* g**u*dc**wm** sta*di*g *ff t* th* l*ft *f th* ai*c*aft** *** *f th*m a**a***tly has a h*lm*t ** (guy f**m th* h*lic**t**, mayb*?)** Th* *th** (th* t*uck d*iv**?) has al**ady sta*t*d t* b*at f**t *utta th***** H*lm*t-guy s**ms blith*ly u*awa** that his(?) h*lic**t** is **lli*g *v** with*ut him** My gu*ss is that th* shi* was **t quit* **ady f** tak*-*ff a*d g*t i*t* a* u*i*t**d*d lift*ff/**ll*v** *f s*m* s**t, ***ha*s lik* that *uma i* **w **l*a*s aft** Kat*i*a** **ws *****ts say that a &qu*t;*il*t a*d c**il*t&qu*t; w*** **scu*d f**m th* shi*, which caus*s m* t* w**d**: H*w ma*y ****l* ***mally c**w a Skyc*a** i* flight? S*c**dly, d* Skyc*a**s hav* a l*w-**m &qu*t;g**u*d idl*&qu*t; s*tti*g? I* *th** w**ds, w*** th*y at 100% **? Just aski*g**
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 12:40   #8 (permalink)
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Fli** h*k, **t a *l*as**t sit***** Th***s ***mally a 3 ma* c**w ** th* c*a**s, *il*t/c*-*il*t a*d th* ta*k ****at** i* th* back cab, w*l wat*v** is attach*d t* th* c*a** th* ****at** i* th* back ha*dl*s it whil* th* *il*ts c**c**t*at* ** th* flyi*g!
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 12:54   #9 (permalink)
 
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A**th** s*t *f blad*s g*** SL
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 16:13   #10 (permalink)
 
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Th* C*a** is fl*w* with a tw* ma* c**w, th* **a* s*at is s*ld*m, if *v** us*d, si*c* th* adv**t *f v**tical **f****c* ****ati**s** It was m*st ty*ically us*d f** c**st*ucti** *v** a*y *th** ****ati** a*d w*uld c**tai*ly **v** s** us* i* fi**fighti*g** I*itial *****ts sugg*st th* f*cus *f th* i*v*stigati** is ** mai*t**a*c* activiti*s ** th* mai* **t** s**v*** H*avylift is **w *****t*dly **m*v*d f**m th* F***st S**vic* c**t*act a*d th*i* **mai*i*g 54A a*d 53D g**u*d*d** This als* sh*ws *** *f th* g**at haza*ds i* this d*sig*, th* *x**su** a*d **lativ* st*uctu*al w*ak**ss *f th* c*ck*it f**m th* **st *f th* ai*f*am*** Amazi*g s*qu**c* *f *ictu**s! I*c**dibly lucky f** *v**y*** i* th* ai**c*aft a*d ** th* g**u*d**
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 16:28   #11 (permalink)
 
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*a*ly i* th* s*qu**c* *f *h*t*s, it sh*ws c**wma* climbi*g th* mai* g*a* su****ts, a*d a***a* t* b* *xami*i*g s*m*thi*g ** th* t**** is th* h*l* *u**i*g at this tim*?
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 16:32   #12 (permalink)
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Yu* **gi**s a** *u**i*g, s**ms t* b* *l**ty *f s*ac* b*tw*** th* g**u*d c**ws h*ad a*d th* mai* **t** blad*s a*yway**
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 16:34   #13 (permalink)
 
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Y*s, th* machi** is *u**i*g, this is a sta*da*d ***c*du** ** th* C*a** as *v**ythi*g is visibl*, a*d th* d*ck is a mass *f li**s a*d fluid syst*ms** Th*** is a guy u* ** b*th sid*s** Th*y w*** *xt**m*ly lucky **t t* hav* b*** u* th*** wh** it **ll*d *v**!
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 00:59   #14 (permalink)
 
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*ush *ull Tub*

**ad at a**th** f**um that a c**t**l tub* s*a***d causi*g th* **ll*v****
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 01:51   #15 (permalink)
 
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L**k at th* *xt**m* &qu*t;dih*d*al&qu*t; ** th* blad*s i* th* f*ll*wi*g *ic (Th* blad*s a***'t flat)** L**ks lik* this *xc*ssiv* a*gl* has b*** caus*d by a la*g* c**t**l (cyclic) m*v*m**t at l*w **M which d**s i*d**d l**k lik* s*m* ki*d *f c**t**l s*a***d** If th* h*lm*t guy was*'t sta*di*g th***, it w*uld l**k lik* it was taki*g *ff, but **ssibly at l*w **M** Th* **s*wh**l l**ks lik* it d**s b*caus* it's tu***d t* sta*b*a*d du* t* th* ***ssu** a**li*d t* it** [IMG]htt*://www**wildla*dfi****c*m/*ics/zaca-h*l*/10**j*g[/IMG]
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 04:12   #16 (permalink)
 
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FH1100 *il*t, tak* this f** what it's w**th, si*c* I hav**'t *v** fl*w* a 54 ** 64, but hav* much *x***i**c* flyi*g *th** h*avy ty** 1 Sik**sky h*lic**t**s ** fi**s** W* always h*t-**fu*l*d at 100% flight idl* a*d **T at g**u*d idl*, si*c* ma*y syst*ms **qui** AC **w** a*d th* AC g****at**s d*** *ffli** b*l*w a c**tai* **** Y*u w*uld hav* t* sta*t u* th* A*U if y*u wa*t*d t* **duc* th* th**ttl* quad*a*ts t* idl* a*d still mai*tai* **w** t* th* va*i*us syst*ms a*d c*ck*it i*dicati**s** I'v* s***t much tim* at a h*libas* **xt t* a 54/64, but ca*'t s**m t* **m*mb** if th*y **duc* **w** t* g**u*d idl* du*i*g **fu*li*g ** k*** it at flight idl*** Mayb* s*m**** with th* a******iat* *x***i**c* c*uld **light** us**
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 05:26   #17 (permalink)
 
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Back wh** I c**w*d a c*a** w* always h*t **fu*l*d at flight idl* **t g**u*d idl*** I k**w s*m* *f th* *th** c*m*a*i*s did*'t always f*ll*w th* *ul* but w* t*i*d t* v*id g**u*d idl* as th* *la**t*y g*a*s i* th* mai* g**b*x w*** **t ******ly *il*d at l*w** s***ds** **t su** h*w much t*uth th*** is t* it but thts what w* g*t f**m th* guys i* th* *H sh** s* w* always t*i*d t* av*id it a*yway** Als* i* **f****c* t* th* dih*d*al ** th* blad*s, I s** it as b*i*g ***mal ** at l*ast cl*s* t* it** Th* * m*d*l 64 ( A m*d*l 54) ***mally g*t a **ally g**d c*** t* th* blad*s ** tak* *ff** Th* F m*d*l (B m*d*l 54) s**m*d a bit l*ss s* but I did*'t s***d much tim* ** th*s* s* I w*uld*'t sw*a* t* it** Glad th*y mad* it *ut *k at a*y *at*! Max
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Old 26th Jul 2007, 21:03   #18 (permalink)
 
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*TSB Id**tificati**: LAX07LA210 14 CF* *a*t 133: **t**c*aft *xt** L*ad Accid**t *ccu***d Su*day, July 08, 2007 i* L*s *liv*s, CA Ai*c*aft: Aviati** I*t***ati**al **t**s CH-54A, **gist*ati**: *44094 I*ju*i*s: 2 Mi***** This is ***limi*a*y i*f**mati**, subj*ct t* cha*g*, a*d may c**tai* *****s** A*y *****s i* this *****t will b* c****ct*d wh** th* fi*al *****t has b*** c*m*l*t*d** ** July 8, 2007, ab*ut 1608 *acific daylight tim*, a* Aviati** I*t***ati**al **t**s CH-54A, *44094, *x***i**c*d a m*cha*ical malfu*cti** a*d **ll*d *v** du*i*g tak**ff f**m a h*libas* ab*ut 4 mil*s ***th *f L*s *liv*s, Calif***ia** Th* h*lic**t** was ****at*d by H*avy Lift H*lic**t**s, I*c**, A**l* Vall*y, Calif***ia, u*d** a &qu*t;call wh** ***d*d&qu*t; c**t*act f** th* Calif***ia D**a*tm**t *f F***st*y &am*; Fi** ***t*cti** (CAL FI**)** Th* *u***s* *f th* flight was t* su****t CAL FI**'s wildla*d fi** su****ssi** activiti*s *f dis***si*g **ta*da*t ** a fi** i* Sa*ta Ba*ba*a C*u*ty** Visual m*t****l*gical c**diti**s ***vail*d, a*d a c*m*a*y flight *la* had b*** fil*d** Th* h*lic**t** was substa*tially damag*d** Th* ai*li** t*a*s***t c**tificat*d *il*t a*d th* c*mm**cial c**tificat*d c**il*t sustai**d mi*** i*ju*i*s** Th* flight was ***f**m*d u*d** th* ***visi**s *f 14 CF* *a*t 133, a*d it was **igi*ati*g at th* tim* *f th* accid**t** Wit**ss*s *****t*d that whil* th* h*lic**t** was ** th* g**u*d at th* s*uth*ast c***** *f th* Figu***a H*libas* ** s**t *umb** 2, a*d at ****ati*g **w**, th* h*lic**t** b*ga* a* u*c*mma*d*d sl*w **ll*v** t* th* *ight** Th* F*d**al Aviati** Admi*ist*ati** (FAA) c***di*at** *xami**d th* h*lic**t** at th* accid**t sit*** Th* FAA c***di*at** *****t*d t* th* *ati**al T*a*s***tati** Saf*ty B*a*d i*v*stigat** that c*m*****ts, which s*cu** *** *f th* th*** mai* **t** blad* *itch cha*g* s**v* u*its t* th* h*lic**t**, w*** f*u*d ab*ut 6 f**t away f**m th* mai* w**ckag*** Th* c*m*****ts c**sist*d *f a *ut, b*lt, *i*, a*d *lat*** This ass*mbly s*cu**s *** *f th* s**v* u*its t* th* h*lic**t** t*a*smissi** ** *** **d a*d th* h*lic**t** swash *lat* ** th* *th** **d** Th* FAA c***di*at** additi**ally *****t*d that th* i*t*g*ity *f this ass*mbly is c*itical t* flight saf*ty, a*d s**a*ati** *f th* s**v* u*it will **sult i* l*ss *f mai* **t** blad* *itch c**t**l**
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Old 27th Jul 2007, 17:25   #19 (permalink)
 
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S** t* clim* u* a*d l**k f** l*aks a*d such wh** w* w*** *u**i*g*********v** h*** at Sik** My qu*sti** th*ugh, th* a*ticl* stat*s that th* *il*t a*d c**il*t g*t *ut **lativ*ly u*scath*d******what *f th* mai*t**a*c* c**w ma*?? Ca*'t s** him i* th* cl*ud *f di*t but y*u ca* s** him u* th*** i* th* *ictu** b*f*** that**********
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Skyc*a** f** sal* - *ai*tw**k may ***d **s**ayi*g htt*://www**aigaviati****c*m/salvag*/*44094/Salvag**44094**as*x
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