Info about hems operations in Europe

[Vertolot]

Stello84,

Your English is very good, just keep on rock'n brother

...and Good luck with your HEMS-project!

[rotor beetle]

Best EMS Helicopter

Hi Stello,

as an allrounder in my opinion the BK 117 is the best EMS Helicopter. It has a relatively large cabin, small dimensions to land in confined areas, can be loaded easily, has good power (hoisting), 2 engines, excellent manouverbility.
The EC 145 is the new version of the BK117. It has a larger cabin and modern avionic (glasscockpit, autopilot optional and so on)
But its heavier, so a disadvantage there.
I guess it all depents on where and for what you need it.
It makes quiet a difference if you do rescue in the swiss alps or in netherlands, or if you just do interhospital transfers or primarly on sceene missions.
The Bell 412 is an excellent transport helicopter because if its huge cabin and IFR capability, but its tricky to land in the "neighbors yard" without breaking anything.
So, it all depents. From the view of a pilot I would choose the new AW 139 !!

Hope that helps a little

RB

[Lima Oscar]

in France the HEMS missions are mostly done by the SAMU (Service d'Aide Medicale Urgente) but the Securite Civile did quite a lot too, so here is the list of EMS helos in France :
SAMU 02 : A109 Power based in Laon hospital
Dragon 06 : EC145 based at Cannes airport
AS350 based at Cannes airport
SAMU 06 : A109 Power based at Nice airport
SAMU 11 : AS355N based at Carcassonne hospital
SAMU 13 : EC135 based at La Timone hospital in Marseille
Dragon 13 C145 based at Marseille airport
AS350 based at Marseille airport
SAMU 15 : AS355N based at Aurillac airport
Dragon 2A : EC145 based at Ajaccio airport
Dragon 2B : EC145 based at Bastia airport
SAMU 21 : EC135 based at Dijon hospital
SAMU 22 : AS355N based at St Brieuc hospital
SAMU 24 : AS355N based at Perigueux hospital
Dragon 25 : EC145 based at Besançon airport
SAMU 26 : A109 Power based at Valence hospital
SAMU 28 : A109 Power based at Dreux hospital (an EC145 will be evaluate by the SAMU 28 soon)
Dragon 29 : EC145 based at Quimper airport
SAMU 29 : AS355N based at Brest hospital
Dragon 30 : EC145 based at Nimes airport
SAMU 30 : AS355N based at Nimes hospital
SAMU 31 : 2 x EC135 based at Toulouse Purpan hospital
Dragon 33 : EC145 based at Bordeaux airport
SAMU 33 : A109 Power based at Bordeaux airport
Dragon 34 : EC145 based at Montpellier airport
SAMU 34 : EC135 based at Montpellier hospital
SAMU 36 : A109 Power based at Chateauroux airport
SAMU 37 : AS365 Dauphin based at Tours hospital
Dragon 38 : EC145 based at Grenoble le Versoud airfield
SAMU 38 : EC135 based at Grenoble hospital
SAMU 41 : AS355N based at Blois hospital
SAMU 42 : EC135 based at St Etienne hospital
SAMU 44 : A109 Power based at Nantes hospital
SAMU 45 : EC135 based at Orleans hospital
Dragon 50 : EC145 based at Granville airport
SAMU 51 : EC135 based at Reims hospital
SAMU 54 : EC135 based at Nancy hospital
Dragon 56 : EC145 based at Lorient airport
Dragon 59 : EC145 based at Lille airport
SAMU 61 : AS365 Dauphin based at Alençon hospital
SAMU 62 : MD900 based at Arras hospital
Dragon 63 : EC145 based at Clermont Ferrand airport
Dragon 64 : EC145 based at Pau airport
SAMU 64 : A109 Power based at Biarritz hospital
Dragon 66 : EC145 based at Perpignan airport
SAMU 66 : AS355N based at Perpignan airport
Dragon 67 : EC145 based at Strasbourg airport
Dragon 69 : EC145 based at Lyon Bron airport
SAMU 69 : EC135 based at Lyon hospital
Dragon 74 : EC145 based at Annecy airport
Dragon 75 : 2 x EC145 based at Paris heliport
Dragon 76 : EC145 based at Le Havre airport
SAMU 80 : EC135 based at Amiens hospital
SAMU 83 : EC135 based at Toulon hospital
SAMU 84 : AS355N based at Avignon hospital
Dragon 85 : EC145 based at La Rochelle airport
SAMU 86 : EC135 based at Poitiers hospital
SAMU 87 : EC135 based at Limoges hospital
SAMU 89 : A109 Power based at Auxerre hospital
SAMU 94 : EC135 based at Creteil hospital (Paris)
i have maybe missed somes

the Gendarmerie has somes bases which do a lot of EMS missions like Chamonix, Biarritz, Tarbes, Modane, Briançon,...

I hope i have help you !

[hostile]

Stello84,

When making a decission which helicopter is best for the operation, you have to think at least these items:
- How much you need endurance?
- How much you need interior space?
- JAR Performance requirements?
- How much you be able to afford it?

If you look only those items (not the last one), AB139 is the best, but it is too big for all bases. Like in Europe, there is many "city" bases where examble EC135 is enough.

Hostile

[stello84]

Nobody could help me?
there aren't other pilots?thanks..

[hemsmedic]

I do have access to a rather sizeable document similar to the thesis you are writing. PM me you e-mail and I'll send it to you.

[Devil 49]

Originally Posted by stello84

this interview is composed by 2 questions:
1-in your opinion what is the best ems helicopter?why?
2-what feaures in your opinion are foundamental in ems helicopter?(if you have to buy a new ems helicopter for your society...what features do you analyse..the 3-5 more important!)..

1- The "best", bar nothing??? Probably the S92...
In the real world, the AS350 series is hard to beat, at least in my area. CHEAP, simple, durable, marginally adequate interior space.

2- Reliable.
Inexpensive.
Capacity- carry our junk, crew, and 350 lb patient for an hour leg, with 30 minute reserve. This one includes adequate space for patient care.
Performance- will do the above after a 300 foot vertical climb, at 100 farenheit, 4000 foot MSL LZ.
If there's any budget left over, I'd like an autopilot, please. The Bell "Helipilot" or whatever they call it, need not apply.

Inexpensive is actually the first 3 considerations of 5, but I'm a pilot.

[stello84]

Hi!!I am back!
so...with your help i have found info about a lot of european countries..
I need only info about spain,romania,russia and turkey...to finish this part of my thesis!
don't you know anything about this countries?thank you!

[xhxhxh]

Airrescue Slovakia

Hello!!There are some webs about HEMS in Slovakia:
www.lzs.sk
www.airrescue.sk
www.ate.sk

[Spanish Waltzer]

....if he's still writing his thesis now things haven't gone too well!

[TOMMY1954]

HEMS Portugal

stello84 , do you have any information regarding Portuguese HEMS?

[hoistop]

HEMS in Slovenia

Stello,

here is some information about HEMS in small country, known as Slovenia.
As northwest part of the 20 000sq. km country is mountainous, helicopter was in use for mountain rescue since 1969 - operated by slovenian police (then one of six republics of the former Yugoslavia) Federal army with its helicopters (Gazelles, MI-2 and Mi-8) was never involved in mountain rescue in Slovenia. In 1986 there was an national agreement signed that Yugoslavian Auto mobile club shall organise a HEMS service throughout the whole Yugoslavia. Federal army provided several Mi-2 helicopters and one Mi-8. They were equipped even with hoists and repainted yellow with Automobile club logo, except in Slovenia, where one of the police helicopters (Agusta A-109A, reg. no: YU-HBN) was modified to then modern HEMS standards. This project never really worked and was soon abandoned for various reasons, but slovenian A-109 continued to operate as air ambulance until 1995, doing interhospital flights and incubator transports. Job was then transferred to bigger AB-412, also operated by slovenian police, which was also responsible for mountain rescue job.
After Slovenia separated from Yugoslavia, slovenian armed forces were created, equipped with Bell 412 (8 pieces) and started taking over some of the mountain rescue flights.
In 2003, a HEMS pilot project, organised and funded by Ministry of health was started, using military Bell 412 helicopter from single base-Brnik airport (code LJLJ). Police continued to provide mountain rescue service and interhospital transport (including incubators) from the same base (Brnik airport)
In december 2006, project ended and regular service was established from the same base (Brnik airport) with arrangement between Ministry of health and slovenian Automobile club, that hired local commercial helicopter company. This company rented one EC-135 T1 helicopter from German operator (MSN: 0035, reg. D-HEOY). Unfortunatelly, financial arrangements were not clear and an affair ensued, that resulted in shutdown of HEMS operations after six weeks. It is believed that this affair caused Minister of health to resign later in the year 2007.
Responsibility for HEMS operations was immediatelly transferred to police, which continues to do so to this day, using one A-109Power with Agusta installed EMS interior (reg. marks S5-HPG) or alternativelly, AB-212 reg. marks S5-HPB or AB-412 reg. marks S5-HPA) These 3 helicopters are in use for HEMS, inerhospital flights and 212/412 helicopters - also for some mountain rescue service (which is organisationally independent from HEMS)
Army continues to provide primary mountain rescue support with Bell 412 helicopters and serves as backup for HEMS operations.
HEMS Medical crews are composed of one doctor and one Emergency medical technician. All operations are funded by National health insurance and Ministry of health. (100% government funded) Here is a link with a little bit of English text: Helikopterska enota nujne medicinske pomo?i Slovenija
I have some more info about HEMS and SAR operations in Europe and also some other countries. If you need more, leave a message.
hoistop

[9Aplus]

Nice report for Slovenia TNX

Can add something from my country 9A

During last 18 years was few attempts to setup HEMS and helicopter SAR
units in Croatia. System on paper was setup last time in 2001. with para-integration of Bell 206, AB212 from Ministry of Interior with few Mi8 MTV from Ministry of Defense.
Last serious fail was one called Hiko, using one BK117 and one EC145,
pilot HEMS project was made during one month in 2005. over mid Croatian coast near Split, from where also some sort of MoD SAR-HEMS is still operational. Golden hour is never achieved standard here. Actual coalition Gov have signed coalition contract included HEMS of at last 3 bases with 24/7/365 but so far nothing happened and there is no sign of near improvements.
Even worse last fatal aviation incident of Cessna T303 9A-DLN bring all local aviation comunity to clear conclusion of non existing SAR and HEMS system in Croatia....

EXAMPLE time scale of 9A-DLN crash response
AvijacijaBezGranica.com • Login
05.02.2009. all times CET (GMT +1)
14:11 take off from LDZA
14:45 last radio contact with ATC ( on 8000ft reminded on NOTAM)
14:54 estimated time of crash
14:57 radar transponder black out
15:00 NOTAM end, Lika 37 i 38
15:10 landing on LDZD of D-GZXC which was near DLN on 8000ft (4x try to call DLN)
15:30 MoI informed by ATC
15:38 Tower ATC LDZD informed Zadar police
15:43 MoD informed (so called) SAR 112, Cessna DLN missing
16:35 on request of 112 military Pilatus PC-9M flight over Velebit
16:43 15 Mountain rescue GSS on vehicles&by foot routed to Velebit from South
17:09 5 policeman Gospic i 1 GSS from North
17:25 return of Pilatus PC-9(m)
21:10 HGSS Zadar to Buljine on Velebitu in vehicles&by foot
21:15 HGSS Gospić from South in vehicles&by foot
06.02.2009.
04:08 HGSS Ogulin from North in vehicles&by foot
07:00 First SAR-HEMS helicopter take off Mi-8MTV1 from Divulje Split.

[collector]

Great post by hoistop, thank you!

As for the the 9A SAR-HEMS sad reality, any comment is needless here

[DirtDiver]

HEMS project

Beste Stello84,

I'm an aviation engeneering student from the netherlands.
When your HEMS project is finished can you publish it or sent it to me?
Because i'm very intrested in HEMS operation.

Greetings Tim,