East Asia Airlines - Sky Shuttle Macau
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East Asia Airlines - Sky Shuttle Macau
Anyone have info on this company?
I see they are looking for S76 Pilots and was curious.
Any idea of their work schedule, Captains pay, FO pay, benefits, cost of living wherever they are based?
I see they are looking for S76 Pilots and was curious.
Any idea of their work schedule, Captains pay, FO pay, benefits, cost of living wherever they are based?
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Sky Shuttle aka East Asia Airlines
Hello all,
I did a search on the forum about East Asia Airlines and the most recent info I was able to gather was from 2006. Does anyone here have any current info I see the they have changed there name to Sky Shuttle. Do they still hire ex-pax's, crew rotation, pay etc...
Any info would be great!
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I did a search on the forum about East Asia Airlines and the most recent info I was able to gather was from 2006. Does anyone here have any current info I see the they have changed there name to Sky Shuttle. Do they still hire ex-pax's, crew rotation, pay etc...
Any info would be great!
Cheers
I guess it depends how you measure "fantastic". They have quite a few expat pilots that have done 10+ years, which is an indicator things can't be too bad. Some of the recent resignations have been on account of long term pilots simply retiring after many years of service, so you can't draw any adverse conclusions about that. Others leave for other reasons, like being passed over for promotion, or falling out with management, or even just being bored with the A to B nature of the flying, but you can get that anywhere you go. They have a fleet of new helicopters, the money is good, the lifestyle can be great depending on what you make of it.
They will always have a requirement for expats, so that answers that question. There is no crew rotation, you are required to live in Macau. As for the money, that's a closely guarded secret but they are well paid. They have been known to hire people who simply go knocking on the Flight Ops Managers door, you know, like being in the right place at the right time and getting lucky.
Just give the man a call, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Better still, go knock on his door with your CV in hand.
They will always have a requirement for expats, so that answers that question. There is no crew rotation, you are required to live in Macau. As for the money, that's a closely guarded secret but they are well paid. They have been known to hire people who simply go knocking on the Flight Ops Managers door, you know, like being in the right place at the right time and getting lucky.
Just give the man a call, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Better still, go knock on his door with your CV in hand.
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Be very, very careful
The people continue to resign, or as is more often the case these days, get sacked. Don't ever kid yourself, signing on with this crowd is a bigger gamble than putting down your money in one of Macau's casinos. Ops Mngr is a yes man of no moral fibre and his superior is and will always be ethically bankrupt.
Salary is approx. HKD90,000/month, full stop, with perhaps some retention bonus scheme thrown in to give the illusion you might be allowed to stick around for a while.
Without fail, pretty much every person that is forewarned about these prats simply can't believe it can be that bad, that is until they get to Macau and find out for themselves. Pity really that what could be a great place to work is nothing more than a no-brain operation run by spineless dictators. I know, I was there long enough to get the t-shirt.
Salary is approx. HKD90,000/month, full stop, with perhaps some retention bonus scheme thrown in to give the illusion you might be allowed to stick around for a while.
Without fail, pretty much every person that is forewarned about these prats simply can't believe it can be that bad, that is until they get to Macau and find out for themselves. Pity really that what could be a great place to work is nothing more than a no-brain operation run by spineless dictators. I know, I was there long enough to get the t-shirt.
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Avoid like the Swine Flu!
Chopper 76 - to anwser some of your questions:
1. They only hire expats, they have to. The cadet program they had a few years ago fell in a heap and they all left.
2. Crew roster is for about 1000 hours a year, but due to weather in summer and winter it's knocked down to about 800. But you still have to go to work everyday whether your gonna fly or not.
3. Pay is very good on the surface with low tax, but forget superannuation, and when you get double taxed (Macau and Hong Kong) your not gonna be happy!
4. Living in Macau is "different". Stay there more than 2 days and you'll figure out whether you wanna live there, then answer will be no. If you go in winter you'll make up your mind after about 10 deep breathes of the local air, or should I say soup!
5. And then there's the famous Cantonese love for pointless paperwork which will drive you up the wall, even for simple stuff.
gulliBell - your opinion is quite dated.
Joker's Wild - SPOT ON!! Very well put!
In short, if your a Captain it's something a bit different for the CV. If your a co-ey, get your endoresment and money and get out fast.
1. They only hire expats, they have to. The cadet program they had a few years ago fell in a heap and they all left.
2. Crew roster is for about 1000 hours a year, but due to weather in summer and winter it's knocked down to about 800. But you still have to go to work everyday whether your gonna fly or not.
3. Pay is very good on the surface with low tax, but forget superannuation, and when you get double taxed (Macau and Hong Kong) your not gonna be happy!
4. Living in Macau is "different". Stay there more than 2 days and you'll figure out whether you wanna live there, then answer will be no. If you go in winter you'll make up your mind after about 10 deep breathes of the local air, or should I say soup!
5. And then there's the famous Cantonese love for pointless paperwork which will drive you up the wall, even for simple stuff.
gulliBell - your opinion is quite dated.
Joker's Wild - SPOT ON!! Very well put!
In short, if your a Captain it's something a bit different for the CV. If your a co-ey, get your endoresment and money and get out fast.
By "double taxed" presumably means half the monthly pay gets paid and taxed in Hong Kong, and the other half gets paid and taxed in Macau. I don't think you're getting taxed twice on the same lump of pay.
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East Asia Airlines, or whatever it's called now, must have gone a long way down-hill since I left Macau. I was one of the original non-Japanese there, at the time when the Coloane hangar was built (I understand it now has to be vacated) and when EAA was run by a HK-based American CEO, a real gentleman. The original Bell 222's were there and during my time we went from flying about three round-trips per day to seventeen including night flying. In order to reduce both the turnaround time and engine cycle count we performed hot refueling.
A great bunch of pilots, mechanics and local staff who understood what was required of them and were not afraid to go the extra mile.
Then, about 1995, the Americal CEO was replaced by an Indian, who brought along his English hatchet-man with him, and things changed - very much for the worst - virtually overnight. The Indian's claims to 'fame' were quite bizarre, he would begin each meeting by having everyone present say a prayer with him, he also said knew all about commercial helicopter operations as he had "...flown Alouette 3's in the Indian Navy" and his proudest achievement was that he was Earl Mountbatten's last batman.
The Maintenance Manager was quickly run-off and replaced by a guy from the HK CAD, a nice guy but totally out of his environment. Others, both pilots and mechanics, quickly ran foul of either the CEO or his hatchet-man and were gone. It seemed the entired original bunch were gone within a year or less.
From then on it appeared that the company had a revolving door - people appeared one day and were gone shortly afterward.
Don't worry, it must get better soon.
A great bunch of pilots, mechanics and local staff who understood what was required of them and were not afraid to go the extra mile.
Then, about 1995, the Americal CEO was replaced by an Indian, who brought along his English hatchet-man with him, and things changed - very much for the worst - virtually overnight. The Indian's claims to 'fame' were quite bizarre, he would begin each meeting by having everyone present say a prayer with him, he also said knew all about commercial helicopter operations as he had "...flown Alouette 3's in the Indian Navy" and his proudest achievement was that he was Earl Mountbatten's last batman.
The Maintenance Manager was quickly run-off and replaced by a guy from the HK CAD, a nice guy but totally out of his environment. Others, both pilots and mechanics, quickly ran foul of either the CEO or his hatchet-man and were gone. It seemed the entired original bunch were gone within a year or less.
From then on it appeared that the company had a revolving door - people appeared one day and were gone shortly afterward.
Don't worry, it must get better soon.
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C'mon,
Surely there must be more to say about this??? Pilots leaving, fired or not fired , engineers being given the boot after 6 yrs of service and told to leave premisses right away.
And now word says they are very busy and don't have enough pilots to fly the line!
Fire first think later! Great attitude!
Surely there must be more to say about this??? Pilots leaving, fired or not fired , engineers being given the boot after 6 yrs of service and told to leave premisses right away.
And now word says they are very busy and don't have enough pilots to fly the line!
Fire first think later! Great attitude!
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Salary is approx. HKD90,000/month
They only hire expats, they have to. The cadet program they had a few years ago fell in a heap and they all left.
If your a co-ey, get your endoresment and money and get out fast.