JAA IR Courses (including Converting FAA IR to JAA IR (Merged)

[N Arslow]

CAA ATPL(H) + Tran Can ATPL(H) inc. IR = JAA ATPL(H)?

I have read back through various threads and also sent two unanswered emails to FCL at the Belgrano (no reply of course!).

Holding a CAA ATPL(H) with EC135 endorsement and a Transport Canada ATPL(H) with IR and S61 (so multi crew qualified) what is the best way to get a JAA ATPL(H). As we all do, we need options and I just want the licence in the back pocket so type specific is not an issue.

Can I, for example fly an IR in the EC135, and would that qualify me for the JAA ATPL(H); if so would it be restricted to single pilot (or is single pilot also good for multi crew). And the big question... do I need to do an approved course or just do the training I need to pass the test.

Just hoping someone has tried this because I know snail mail to the Belgrano is probably the only way to an answer...

[paco]

For best results, see LASORS, but if you have an ICAO ATP with over 1000 hours and a multi-crew type rating, you are exempt formal training (just tick the box on the application form) but must take all the exams . Since your ATP is a CAA one, you likely won't have done Human Factors anyway.

PM me if you have any further queries - you will definitely need some exam prep, and ATPL QUESTION TEST QCM Theorical JAA ATPL and CPL is a free database

cheers

phil

[imuney]

ICAO IR to JAA IR conversion?

Anyone done an ICAO IR (H) to JAA IR (H). I am familiar with the requirements but like to hear more about the cost and which flight school to use. I also hear that a single engine IR rating is enough to get hired on by North Sea operators, any truth to that?

[You're Dangerous]

CPL considering Instrument Rating. .

Just looking for any opinions / advice on my current situation

Hold a CPL (H) here in the UK, just finished exams

Flown nearly 1,000 hours stateside (instructing)

Hold a current FAA Instrument Rating

The next step is to take the plunge and do an IR and type here in the UK

I'd love to know what aircraft / schools guys have gone for who are in a similar situation. Obviously i'd like to position myself so that i'm attractive to employers when they look at my C.V! That said the huge amount of cash involved in this is leading me to thread very carefully . . .

I'd really appreciate any advice you guys would have or hearing from anyone out there in a similar situation

Cheers

Val

[You're Dangerous]

Yeah Ivor I heard the minimums are tight - Its always good to budget 15 - 20 % extra I suppose.

Regarding any 'poo pooing' of that FAA IR - surely such transatlantic snobbery does not go on in the helicopter industry

[Torquetalk]

And if they make too big a face take your cash elsewhere.

Proair in Sweden and BAC in Denmark have plenty of experience in FAA to JAA IR conversions. They get a fair proportion of folk through in minimums and a fair proportion need a few more hours. Depends partly on whether you've kept your knowledge and skills current or if you've just got the piece of paper and now want another one. And also how hard you work and well-prepared you are.

Expect to work hard to close the gap on ADF.

TT

[heliporto]

(IR) in single engine in a JAA (UK CAA license), is it possible ?

Hi there, could I please get some help about this doubt ?

- Having a JAA (UK CAA issued), CPL-H, is it legal to do the Instrument rating training in another JAA country, but in a single engine helicopter ?

- For someone who already has the IR theory passed (ATPL-H credit), what would be the requirements to do that and put the IR on that license (issued by the CAA) ? Do we only need a document from the foreigner JAA FTO certifying the course has been done, and logbook with the training logged, and send it to the CAA ? (please note this would be done in another country outside UK, altough the license has been issued in UK).


Any help appreciated
Thanks a lot

[Heli-Jock]

Instrument Rating Exams

Hi Guys, I have a CPL H at the moment, based in the UK and i'm thinking about going for the instrument rating. However my atpl exams ran out 3 years back and i believe i need to sit more exams but not quite the 13 i sat originally. Does anyone have any views on the best place to do the exams, on a home study basis and what exams need to be redone? I originally done my exams at Bristol GS bit they dont do the specific IR exams.

Your help would be much appreciated.

HJ

[choppertop]

Phil at CAPT will sort you out

Yup, more studying for you to do, mister... :-)

IR... but there are no jobs, remember

[charlieDontSurf]

I just finished my last exams for the IR.

We used Bristol GS (webbased questionbank), and that helped us a lot for preparation for the examination.
If you have run through the Bristol-bank a few times, you'll pass.

Just go for the ATPL-H, and work with the relevant subjects for the IR.

[choppertop]

And the assessed study hours? You still need to do an IR theory course, I think.

[Aucky]

Indeed CAPT is supposed to be very good, I just did mine with GTS at bournemouth, nice guys, well taught etc... You don't actually have to do an approved course provided you have previously passed the ATPL's in the subjects (although i think it's worth it, and the materials are well worth having)....

Aucky

[docstone]

IR

Try Veritair Aviation Academy in Cardiff, full SIMs on site too

[cTcPilot]

IR(H) FTO's in Europe. NOT UK FTO's.

All,

I wish to convert my JAA IR(A) to an JAA IR(H).

Can people please let me know any IR(H) FTO's that are in europe.
I know about the FTO's in the UK that provide this training but im trying to shop around to find a good deal.

Some one must know of FTO's in Spain, Italy, Bulgaria, Poland etc that can offer this course for a cheaper cost?

Mabey Its just wishful thinking but I have had no look with finding any with google.

Many thanks in advance for replies.

[AnFI]

Best value in UK

Because of the currency shift most training is MUCH better value than the rest of Europe.

Also you get a genuine UK JAA easa IR as opposed to an expensive copy.

HeliServices at Wycombe actually know what they are doing......

[AnFI]

it was the:
"Some one must know of FTO's in Spain, Italy, Bulgaria, Poland etc that can offer this course for a cheaper cost?"
that made me point out the currency advantage.

(client?)

They may not be 'touchy feely' - but they do have very good results - in a tough reigime.....

[ForceTrim]

I don't dispute their results, but most customers paying a large amount for an IR (H) course also want quality, and value for money...

It would be interesting to compare prices with mainland europe for a similar course, has anyone got the figures?

[Torquetalk]

Also you get a genuine UK JAA easa IR as opposed to an expensive copy.

HeliServices at Wycombe actually know what they are doing......

Having failed to answer the poster's request completely and offered a very strong opinion, perhaps you could either declare your interest or elaborate based, naturally, on your extensive knowledge of the quality of other IR courses in the rest of europe?

[Dan fily]

IR

Yes........"Training" at Heliservices involves doing it all yourself!.
European FTOs:-
Billund Air Centre {Denmark}, European Air Centre {Norway} and I believe Northern Helicopters {Sweden} do an IR course. Dan.

[paco]

"Yes........"Training" at Heliservices involves doing it all yourself!"


Would you care to elaborate?

Phil