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Old 21st Nov 2001, 23:27
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Question Helicopter industry in China

Does anyone have any information on China Rich?
Please let me know if you do.
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The operation is being run by an EX GFS pilot and they are using an S-76 to run between Guanzhou from what I understand into HK. Not sure if it is up and running yet.
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Do you know any contact names/telephone numbers for China Rich?
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Will see if I can find some contact details and get back to you.
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Thumbs up China S76C saves first life.

SHANGHAI, China
A Greek merchant seaman was saved on May 31, marking the first successful rescue mission using the S-76C+ SAR helicopter in China.
The helicopter, one of two new S-76C+ SAR aircraft imported by China's Ministry of Communications in 2001, flew 100 kilometers from Shanghai Gaodong Airport to the Greek ship Militois and hoisted the sailor, who was suffering acute kidney distress.
The Shanghai Gaodong Airport SAR base, equipped with two S-76C+ SAR helicopters, began operation in March this year. The airport is the first SAR airport in China.

The People's Republic of China selected two Sikorsky S-76C+ helicopters for Shanghai Salvage & Rescue Bureau's new base, a first step in a major upgrade of the nation's airborne offshore SAR capability.
Each S-76C+ SAR helicopter is configured with a rescue hoist, forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) system, a Nightsun searchlight, 4-axis auto hovering system, two interior patient litters and sophisticated avionics designed specifically for offshore SAR operations.
Fifteen S-76 helicopters fly in China, many in offshore oil support missions. East Asia Airlines of Macao operates five S-76C+ aircraft in the South China Sea.
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Hmmm

You wanna watch those Greeks Heli-P, they'll do anything for a shag........seriously, job well done.
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It's good to see that the training given by the aussies has been successful
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Great stuff, good to see more SAR coverage off the coast of China.

However, to be historically correct, the first "SAR airport" in China was actually Kai Tak, followed by Chek Lap Kok. GFS has been operating SAR aircraft since its formation in 1993 and is just therefore celebrating its first decade of operations. Both of these are of course in Hong Kong, which has been part of China since July 1st, 1997.

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http://www.info.gov.hk/gfs/home.htm

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Good news. However, whilst some of the basic training may have been carried out by the Aussies, you will find that the SAR training - for both pilots and rear crew - was conducted by GFS, in Hong Kong.
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EC155 of the Hong Kong GFS

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No offence, but if the operation started in March and the first rescue was in May, what have they been doing for 2 months???
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I'm fairly certain an operator in Macau also had a hand in training the lads up in Shanghai.

And if you're curious, I do believe those two aircraft have been on site since the end of 2001!!!
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Radiohead……If you consider the crews being trained and capable of effecting full auto hover water rescues as ‘Basic Training’ then you are correct.

As one of the Aussies who were involved I can tell you it was far from being ‘Basic’. The Chinese crews did remarkably well whilst under our charge for that phase and were passed on as intended to GFS for on the job training and to consolidate their CRM.

China Rescue, keep up the good work
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I think we must be talking at cross purposes here. The MoC crews trained by GFS had certainly never seen an overwater hover before, and to a man, had not a scrap of SAR experience. Perhaps there are two groups within the MoC establishment, which received training from these two separate sources?

Not that it matters - as has already been pointed out on this thread - the real credit goes to the crews involved for performing their first 'real' SAR. China's coastline is sorely lacking in SAR assets - apart from, of course, a large part of the South China Sea, which is covered by the GFS, as pointed out by Shy Torque above.
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Helicopter business opportunities in China

Dear fellow Rotorheads

Saw the following in our company email if anybody's interested.



Dear Member of the Helicopter Industry,


Please note the date change in "The 1st Shanghai Delta Helicopter Business
Delegation." Due to the upcoming National Holiday in China, the Delegation will
be postponed a week later to October 12 - 15, 2003.

A reminder that the main purpose of "The 1st Shanghai Delta Helicopter Business
Delegation," hosted by Shanghai and Suzhou City, is to study and discuss the
needs and possibilities of starting up helicopter services in the following
areas:

Emergency Medical Services
Fire and Rescue
Newsgathering
Forestry
Transportation



"The 1st Helicopter Business Delegation to Shanghai Delta" provides an
unparalleled opportunity for helicopter companies throughout the world to
actively participate in and develop a civil helicopter market in China as the
Open Air Policy for Helicopters is enacted.
HAI urges members of the civil helicopter industry to participate in the "The
1st Helicopter Business Delegation to Shanghai Delta" for the rare opportunity
to see the introduction of civil helicopter industry in China. The Delegation
will provide a wonderful deal of 3 nights and 4 days hotel accommodation at a
five star hotel, meals, and transportation that includes limousines. The
application and participation fee totals to only USD$ 850!

Application and Payment

To participate in "The 1st Shanghai Delta Helicopter Business Delegation,"
please submit the attached application by fax (+81-3-3555-3627 ) or email
([email protected]) before September 25, 2003.The application fee of Japanese Yen
20,000 and participation fee of Japanese Yen 82,000 totals to $850 USD or
Japanese Yen 102,000. The fees will cover hotel accommodation, meals and
transportations during your 3 nights 4 days stay in Shanghai, China.
ITC-Leasing, inc. will be accepting application and fees on behalf of China
Helicopter Association.

Attached, you'll find an application to "The 1st Helicopter Business Delegation
to Shanghai Delta" and the itinerary. If you have any questions, please contact
Tomoo Nakayama, Ichiro Inoue, or Mitsuko Ohkawa at ITC-Leasing, Inc., Tokyo,
Japan
(Tel: +818-3555-3621, Fax: +813-3555-3627, email: [email protected]).

Don't miss out on this great opportunity for the civil helicopter industry. We
look forward to seeing you in Shanghai on October 12, 2003!

Time: October 12 - 15, 2003

Where: Shanghai City and Suzhou City, China

Sponsors:
China Helicopter Association (CHA)
All-China Federation of Industry & Commerce


Supporting Organizations:
Helicopter Association International (HAI)
Shanghai City Government
China Helicopter Association (CHA)
Shanghai Chamber of Commerce and Industries
Shanghai Small-sized Enterprises (Trade Development) Center
Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation, USA
Akagi Helicopter Service, Japan
Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.
Organizations to visit or meet:
Shanghai Pudong New Area People's Government Office
Shanghai Pudong New Area Investment Projects Administrative Office
Shanghai Federation of Industry & Commerce
Shanghai Chamber of Commerce
Shanghai Transportation Bureau
Shanghai Civil Aviation Authority
Shanghai Airport Authority
Shanghai Maritime Search & Rescue Flying Service
Ministry of Communications, with Gaodong Heliport
Shanghai Small-sized Enterprises (Trade Development) Center
Shanghai Delta Helicopter Fire Fighting and Emergency Rescue Center
Suzhou Delta Helicopter Fire Fighting and Emergency Rescue Center
Chambers of Commerce, Wuxi, Suzhou, Hangzhou, Nantong, Kunshan, etc.
Transportation Bureaus of Wuxi, Suzhou, Hangzhou, Nantong, Kunshan, etc.


PS. Go well prepared with lots of patience a good knowledge about the culture and their business ethics and integrity.
Someone you can trust who is fluent in Putonghua (Mandarin) a substantial advantage but not somebody from Taiwan.
Personal opinion only of course obtained from actual experiences
Flew over there twice in a SA315B and hopefully back over there again next year.
Fantastic interesting place

Humbly yours and fly safe
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Capt Lai Hai - Got the same email a while ago and am booked on the trip. Will we see you there.

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Hi Ned

Not likely too much on in HK.
if you're passing through this way give us a call

humbly yours

flysafe
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Capt Lai Hai,

Will be in HK from midday the 15th through till the night of 17th. Might have to come and shoot Michael's MD520N if its around.

Do HHK still have the B3s or they gone now.

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Puma Incident China

Unconfirmed report of a Puma Incident in China.

Anyone have any details ?
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No one hurt
Shanghai
High hover test flight ?
Hard landing
Throttle manipulation ?????
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