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Old 19th Aug 2005, 10:25
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Motorbike with Heli engine!

Hi all,

I am helping a mate write a feature, he just rode a motorbike with an Allison 250 series engine in it in the states, bit warm by all accounts.

What type of helicopter is this likely to have been used in?

I'm only a R22/44 piston boy to date so not really up on turbines

Thx
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Hi there,

I am assuming it is a C18/C20. This was used in Bell 206 Jet Ranger, Hughes 500/520, Enstrom 480, Eurocopter 355 Single Squirrel, Bolkow BO105.

If it was a C28/C30 then it was: Bell 206 Long Ranger, Sikorsky S76A.

If it was a C47, it was: MD 600.


There are surely some others that I've missed out, but that should keep you going.
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Old 19th Aug 2005, 11:16
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Jay Leno the yank night show guy owns one. Built by Ted McIntyre with a jet ranger motor---cost $150,000.
Apparently not good at traffic lights.Melts the plastic of the car behind.
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Thx,

Guess you wouldn't want a hot start!
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Old 19th Aug 2005, 11:53
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Find out morehere

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What's its Endurance?

http://www.marineturbine.com/motorsports.asp
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Yup that's the beastie my mate rode, heat was a significant problem, especially in New Orleans
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The bike featured in the movie Torque. (A brainless movie, but with a certain charm nonetheless.)

I've seen a video of a motorcycle journo test riding one. The whole computerised turbine startup was amazing and it sounded absolutely incredible.

MTT boast 250 mph or your money back...

Si
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Its called a Y2K and uses a C20. Tested by various bike mags as well as Bikes Aloud on Men & Motors. Biggest problem is exhaust for those behind it, also no engine braking.
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Old 20th Aug 2005, 07:55
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Must be comforting to know that while riding the bike there might be a turbine wheel spinning at 50 odd thousand RPM, just waiting to break free between your legs.
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Along those lines...
Back in the days both the OH-6 (Hughes 500C) and the OH-58A(B206B) came out with C-18 engines. The C20 was so much better that changes were made and lots of C-18s hit the surplus market. Nobody wanted them. I dont know if thats still the case, but Im guessing one could get one rather cheap if it was not to go into anything flyable. TBO does not apply to bikes. ha ha
So if your building a scooter with one, I would look for the C18 first. You wont know the difference when you hit the throttle on your scooter.........
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The Y2K is in fact built around a C18, not a C20 (so there's an even greater chance of losing your wedding tackle when the disks rupture...!). Ted's machine is beautifully finished, and he’s developed a neat proprietary starting system for it, but physically it's pretty damn large for those of use more used to riding today's generation of crotch rockets. A Gixer or R1 will beat the Y2K off the line, but once it spools up (~60mph), it’s unstoppable. Thankfully, there's an integrated RWR !!

In addition to the Y2K, there have been a handful of amateur turbine bike projects, including Emile van Essen's GTP550, based on a Garrett GTP30, and John Wallis’ Garrett TV84-powered bike in NSW.

I/C
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Suicide bike with Allison 250 engine

Perhaps I should have posted this in Jet Blast but Bell 206/Hughes 500 pilots will recognise the engine:

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So let me understand this. The engine used in this bike either uses headgear worn by muslims as one of its components, or as fuel, or produces turbans as a result of using it in this application. Remarkable!
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I think I read somewhere that a turboshaft engine is not really ideal for for MC. Lousy torque and not really fast acceleration.

I would prefer my VTwin Harley anyday

But a good experiment and a it´s different

Jay Leno On His Turbine Jet Bike
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If the exhaust comes out the bottom it's a C-17 for fixed wingers. not helicopters' In the video I saw a red painted C-18 & a gold C-17
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Well, if we're doing the whole "turbine-in-bits-of-equipment-they-weren't-originally-designed-for" thing .. then I have to say that my preferred application is this:

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I had dozens of C18 engines for years and could hardly give them away ....maybe I should have kept them Even old C20,s without all the AD,s etc were hard to move .
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Oh boy, hope he has the containment ring AD

Kiwi building helicopter-powered motorcycle | Stuff.co.nz

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Or he can just order one new:

MTT - Leading Turbine Innovation
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