I flew the Bell204B (lycoming engine) and the Augusta Bell 204A (rollsroyce engine) in Iran in the early seventies. The AB204A was based in the mountains for oil exploration (top rig helipad was 12,000 feet) and the Bell 204B (on floats), I flew in the Persian Gulf.
Not a lot of time, about 1,000 hours but a quality aircraft, a derivitave of the HUEY, I believe
The 204B was actually the first "Huey" it was designated the (A) then (B)with changes. Next out was a different body and designated the (D) which after changing from the L-11 to L-13 engine became the (H) The (C) and (M) were 204 bodies with 540 rotorsystems and bigger engines and used mainly for gunships. both the C/M had shorter tailbooms as did all 204s, and not real good where tail rotor authority is a must. Other variants of the (D) were the (V) for medevac and Electronic surveilance (E) The Air Force and Navy also had 204 bodies with side exhaust engines. The (D) body evolved into the 212 or (UH-1N) and is today further made in to the B412. Or as is said the 212 is a Huey with two engines and the 412 is a Huey with two engines and four blades. Im sure Lu could get in here and give all the finer points, but these are just the basics from one with a couple thousand hours of (Pilot Time) in them.
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Helmet Fire, I remember that list you posted above, very good. Another pretty amusing 'publication' that used to be popular among the 9, 5, 35 SQN rotorhead fraternity, and elsewhere, was the 'Seagull' or 'Eagle' codes, don't know if you've run across them. You could transmit the word 'Seagull' plus a 3 figure number, and see the other formation crew members hurriedly consulting their list to see which piece of abuse you had just sent them. Some good examples were:
"You sir, can f**K right off!" (Seagull 500, as I recall).
"If it don't fit, overpitch it!"
"I love the f**King Air Force, and the Air Force loves f**king me!"
And one of my personal favourites - "Seagull 571!" (Show us your t*ts!)
One thing about Hueys, you could be assured that people flying just about any other type would come out with 'Yeah, I'd love to have a go at flying them.'
And fair enough too, what a classic and excellent machine.
Arm OTW, dont know the list - but would love to see it!
An NZ mate told me a great Huey story: he took a SkyHawk (when they had them!) pilot for a ride. Each time he would hando over the controls by gesturing with his left hand over the center console, he would flick off the HYD switch, then when fighter jock would strugle and sweat he would take over and flick HYD on again to demonstrate how he could fly the aircraft with just his fingers!
The fighter jock still believes all Huey pilots are incredible!!
Mind you, a good Instructor could hover a well tensioned (and light) aircraft with two fingers on the cyclic with HYD off.
Have recently visited Vietnam as a Trainer delivering customer service and SEP training to VN's cabin crew. Whilst there became fascinated with what went on during the war. Have read lots of books and watched Apolocypse Now about four times! Cutting to the chase, eventually, I would love to have a ride on a Huey. I have become very interested in helicopters and am also considering taking lessons to fly one. Can anyone tell me how much it costs to learn, how long does it take? are there many different ratings etc?. .I was a CSD with BA up until a year ago and am now just north of 40 years old, do I stand a chance of becoming a rotorhead?
Yep, I fly one (used to). Got about 2,500 hours in them. Great helicopter, very forgiving (as far as helicopters go). As far as learning in one, unless your last name is Rockerfeller or Rothschild or something, I'd say forget it. Learning to fly, civy side, is very expensive.
I fly one too (well almost Bell 205 A-1) the company I fly for has got seven of the beasts. Always an eye-catcher every where you go. we have a check pilot on the team. The cost is pretty high nearly GBP1500,- an hour (Euro 2300,-). The question is will anybody let you!
Thanks CyclicRick. Can't believe the cost per hour. Are you sure? You are a very lucky guy being paid to fly a Huey. Every now and then I log on <a href="http://www.vhpa.org" target="_blank">www.vhpa.org</a> just to hear the sound of the rotors, now how sad is that?
Draco. I have just ordered this book from Amazon, should have it in a day or so. Will it have the same effect on me?. .I think I am already hooked, however. Having my first lesson in a couple of days in a Robinson R-22 Beta at Redhill in Surrey.. .Now be honest guys and gals, what do you think of the Robbie. Is this the right helicopter to sart on?
Dooroneleft,. .I (as you may imagine!) think the Robbo's an excellent Helicopter to start on - as affordable as anything to do with Helicopters can be; light, maneouvrable (i.e. fun); twitchy enough to keep you on your toes; and worrying enough to have you spring loaded to dump collective if it all goes horribly quiet. Treat it with respect, fly it as you are told, don't try and push the envelope and you need not have any of Lu's worries.
And be warned, flying Helicopters is very, very, addictive.
Robbo Jock. . Think your a bit mixed up. This little thread is on Hueys, not Robbies. Dont you Robbie guys have enough threads , like "Why they fall from the sky", etc., that you cant let some Hueys drivers have fun..... .UH-1,love that puppy. did it in the A,B,D,H,M,and V also flew the Squashed Version AH-1(G)(S).They were fun days....
Mason's book sparked my interest in aviation and helicopters. It is also a superb and harrowing account of how the experience changed him. . .Years later he wrote another book about his life after leaving the army; you remember chicknhawk ends with him saying how he was done for drug smuggling? . .I've never been able to find the follow-up.
"The 13th Valley" by John M Del Vecchio . .ISBN 0-312-20081-1 is a fantastic book too, this time by one of the grunts that Bob Mason would have been transporting.
Don't worry your not that sad, we get people ringing up every day wanting a flight a type rating or just to have a peek in the hangar. I'm addicted to the sound of a Merlin with just a little boost at 300MPH just lifting the nose for a gentle barrel roll..sad? No-way I'd sell the wife and kids for a cabby in Spitfire IX.. .One day....one day!. .Take a peek at our web site for a drool if you like <a href="http://www.agrarflug-helilift.com" target="_blank">www.agrarflug-helilift.com</a>
PS. If anyone out there owns a spit and will take me for a ride or a type rating I'll renounce helicopters as smelly vibrating noisy slow lumps of badly made c***. I know it's heracy but...