Aerobatics in a BO105
BO105 Aerobatics
Can the EC135 do this as well?
Seeing as the EC135 model followed on from the BO-105 and has the same type of rotor head, can it do the same type of maneuvres?
As a PPL(H) with only 200 hours, I'd love to know what control inputs you need to do to achieve this - any of you experts out there tell me how it's done? I know I can't do it in my R44 !!!!!
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Modifications
Does anybody know what modifications are made to enable it to make these manouvres. I read somewhere that extensive and expensive modifications are made to the helicopter (eg. Red Bull Bo105). I have also been informed that there are no "generic" 105's that are certified to do aerobatics. Just wondering if I have been correctly informed regarding this matter?
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Errrrrr ....... rudestuff ...
I don't think the EC135 does have the same Rotor Head as the Bo105.
Methinks you mean the EC145 which is the latest inncarnation of the Bk117 which is the Boelkow after the steroid treatments.
I don't think the EC135 does have the same Rotor Head as the Bo105.
Methinks you mean the EC145 which is the latest inncarnation of the Bk117 which is the Boelkow after the steroid treatments.
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Try this site...
Loads of good videos at: www.griffin-helicopters.co.uk
I don't know how to do it, and certainly won't even think about it while flying the R22!
Si
I don't know how to do it, and certainly won't even think about it while flying the R22!
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Hey JBL99,
The control inputs required for safe aerobatic flight will be very well known to you after dozens and dozens of hours of competent aerobatic instruction in a FIXED WING aerobatic aircraft. After that training, you'll realize that there really is no reason to attempt aerobatics in a helicopter. They are so much fun to fly at all, why would you want to have one upside down? We have aeroplanes for that!
Cherish your opportunity the helicopter - I do, but save the aerobatics for the aircraft types designed for it. Aerobatics themselves, correctly flown are not really dangerous, but a mistake during aerobatics is very much less forgiving. Main rotor hubs and masts are supposed to stay away from each other, as are the main rotor blades and tail booms.
Fly safe, Pilot DAR
The control inputs required for safe aerobatic flight will be very well known to you after dozens and dozens of hours of competent aerobatic instruction in a FIXED WING aerobatic aircraft. After that training, you'll realize that there really is no reason to attempt aerobatics in a helicopter. They are so much fun to fly at all, why would you want to have one upside down? We have aeroplanes for that!
Cherish your opportunity the helicopter - I do, but save the aerobatics for the aircraft types designed for it. Aerobatics themselves, correctly flown are not really dangerous, but a mistake during aerobatics is very much less forgiving. Main rotor hubs and masts are supposed to stay away from each other, as are the main rotor blades and tail booms.
Fly safe, Pilot DAR
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Well ....... I would imagine the control inputs would be much the same as for aeroplane aero's.....
Probably "snap rolls" are not on 'cos you have no wing to stall ..... but everything else ......
In the Bo105 once you have flown it .... you will find the roll rate very quick ... in fact much quicker than in the Cessna 150 Aerobat, Chipmonk et al.
Cyclic Pitch control is also very precise (ie like flying a jet fighter!) so once you feel happy in the "slippery little sucker" ...
Having said all that ... the standard Rotorcraft FM does not allow "Intentional" aerobatic flight ..... (soooooo I supose you also won't need the parachute)
I understand the Red Bull a/c are not modified much (????) but I would think that their maintenance inspection schedules will be much enhanced especially in the areas of the "transmission support struts" and their a/f attach points. I would also think the tailboom pylon doublers are watched carefully as well.
Flying the "Blowkow" is not like flying any other Heli ... the Hu 500 is close as far as control response goes ... but I wouldn't be trying aeros in 'em!
Probably "snap rolls" are not on 'cos you have no wing to stall ..... but everything else ......
In the Bo105 once you have flown it .... you will find the roll rate very quick ... in fact much quicker than in the Cessna 150 Aerobat, Chipmonk et al.
Cyclic Pitch control is also very precise (ie like flying a jet fighter!) so once you feel happy in the "slippery little sucker" ...
Having said all that ... the standard Rotorcraft FM does not allow "Intentional" aerobatic flight ..... (soooooo I supose you also won't need the parachute)
I understand the Red Bull a/c are not modified much (????) but I would think that their maintenance inspection schedules will be much enhanced especially in the areas of the "transmission support struts" and their a/f attach points. I would also think the tailboom pylon doublers are watched carefully as well.
Flying the "Blowkow" is not like flying any other Heli ... the Hu 500 is close as far as control response goes ... but I wouldn't be trying aeros in 'em!
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BO-105 display
I don't know if it has been posted before... did a search nothing came up!
I watch this over and over again!!
Edit: It's been 4 years since someone posted here! Thanks for the transfer to the appropriate thread.
I watch this over and over again!!
Edit: It's been 4 years since someone posted here! Thanks for the transfer to the appropriate thread.
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That is Sigfried Hoffman flying for the factory in Munich, back when it was MBB. A great pilot, with a fine helicopter in his hands. Dont worry about bunts, that rotor can do the job.
The first time I saw Zimmerman....without knowing what was going on....I stopped dead in my tracks....pointed....and told my companion...."OH MY GAWD! That's poor guy is dead!" He went on to finish his first display of the day and I got to enjoy the second one without having my heart in my throat!
One does not do such things in Bell Teeter Totter Rotor products and survive!
I was not knowing of the capability of the 105 or the ability of Herr Zimmerman!
One does not do such things in Bell Teeter Totter Rotor products and survive!
I was not knowing of the capability of the 105 or the ability of Herr Zimmerman!
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Is this pilot extremely talented, completely mad, lucky or all three?!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mRt5mvk-2iw
Imagine being strapped in for that ride, it would have been TERRIFYING!
Imagine being strapped in for that ride, it would have been TERRIFYING!
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