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Old 13th June 2009, 14:29   #1601 (permalink)
 
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Nearly 100 S-92 helicopters have been built for search and rescue, and transporting heads of state and oil workers to offshore platforms.
I did not realise we were transporting "Heads of State" to offshore platforms.
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Old 13th June 2009, 14:58   #1602 (permalink)
 
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So Sikorsky, after trying to trade on its American heritage is now going to use the much cheaper labour in India to build its cabins instead of helping the US economy recover by creating jobs from investment.
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Old 13th June 2009, 15:25   #1603 (permalink)
 
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Crab old fellow,

In case you missed the latest news from over here.....we have a new administration that is, shall we say, not very keen on business and proposes all sorts of new taxes, increasing existing taxes, removing allowable deductions, and installing penalties for success. Intel is saying they will relocate Americans to overseas locations if this keeps on. We would gladly trade you our "One" for your "One Eyed" fellow which would leave you an eye up on us one up on us in the deal.

Sikorsky has relied upon other countries for manufacturing....the UK and Italy for instance....what's the difference?

Last time I checked old Igor was a Russian before becoming an American anyhow!
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Old 13th June 2009, 18:01   #1604 (permalink)
 
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The UK ruled India in the past and now India will rule the UK and its former possessions (to include the US). Of course China may have something to say about that.
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Old 13th June 2009, 18:29   #1605 (permalink)
 
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So Sikorsky hopes doing a deal with India to build cabins will favour them in upcoming Indian helicopter business...but I wonder how the Indian Government will react when they find other major parts are coming over the Himalayas from China ?!
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Old 13th June 2009, 18:43   #1606 (permalink)
 
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Or is it Taiwan?
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Old 13th June 2009, 20:49   #1607 (permalink)
 
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Old News SASless

Sikorsky Aircraft Corp. - MoU with TATA (Sikorsky)

The plan was 11 montsh before the big O came in.

Still easy to see how, say, a senile thick redneck might blame everything on a charesmatic, intelligent leader like Obama.
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Old 13th June 2009, 23:32   #1608 (permalink)
 
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Still easy to see how, say, a senile thick redneck might blame everything on a charesmatic, intelligent leader like Obama.

You must never have met a real Redneck! As to being thick and senile.....I am neither. At least I know how and when to use spell check.

Zalt....when the word is underlined in "red", that means you have a spelling problem.

As you have appear to have a limited vocabulary and use poor grammar it would suggest you did not do well in school.

Don't over look the fact that a lot of ol' Rednecks were raised Pentecostal....they believe in the laying on of hands. Be careful who you insult as you might just one day run into a real down south Georgia Redneck.

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Old 14th June 2009, 00:14   #1609 (permalink)
 
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Sasless;

Good to see you corrected your last post as we definitely did not vote on "Buy Canadian".

However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"

A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.

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Old 14th June 2009, 00:53   #1610 (permalink)
 
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As I said.....our current administration is not very business savvy or friendly!

As you recall.....there was an uproar when Congress brought that silly notion up...on both sides of the border.

Much more of this "Change" and that is all we're gonna have is "change". (as in small change)
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Old 14th June 2009, 01:10   #1611 (permalink)
 
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It is a global market now , just see how much of any GE engine is from offshore now. It is good as long as the country respects the intellectual rights of the prime contractor. I have my doubts that copywright laws are well enforced in mainland china ( I cannot speak for Taiwan ).
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Old 14th June 2009, 02:19   #1612 (permalink)
 
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There is nothing new in this. The S-92 cabin was previously built by Mitsubishi and has always therefore always been sourced internationally and shipped to the US. As the manufacture of S-92 cabins no longer fits Mitsubishi's business model, an alternative source had to be found.

Parts of the S-92 fuselage are already built in China and in Taiwan.
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Old 14th June 2009, 06:46   #1613 (permalink)
 
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Good to see you corrected your last post as we definitely did not vote on "Buy Canadian".

However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"

A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.

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Old 14th June 2009, 14:58   #1614 (permalink)
 
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Slightly off topic, but related.

Big chunks of the 76 are built offshore too, Czechoslovakia springs to mind.
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Old 14th June 2009, 15:09   #1615 (permalink)
 
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I don't think there are many civilian transport aircraft or helicopters these days which are exclusively made in a particular country, the concept of 'Buy American' or 'Buy European' is somewhat facile and does not reflect the globalisation of the lower tier suppliers. Think how many PWC PT6 engines are installed in 'American Helicopters' for example and the proportion of the aircraft ticket price that the engines represent.

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Old 14th June 2009, 16:23   #1616 (permalink)
 
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In US business, the bottom line is usually: Making a profit. If Martians outbid everyone else and make the part to the drawing then that's fine.

The only glitch these days comes when parts are made and assembled outside the US. For the most part, SAC farms out abroad a lot of parts but assembles the end item within its plants. Kind of a "Sorta American Made" product that keeps share holders especially happy and worker bees at a low grumble stateside.
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Old 15th June 2009, 21:58   #1617 (permalink)
 
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NL 3-Hour Gearbox Run Quote

Sven, as I recall, the main box was run 3 hours without oil pressure, not without all oil. I cannot recall whether the test was terminated for cause, or whether the three hours was thought to be sufficient.

Just wanted to clarify that one point.

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Old 15th June 2009, 22:53   #1618 (permalink)
 
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John

What do you think a customer would believe can be done without oil in the MRGB vice simply without oil pressure? And, how would a crew figure it to be one, or the other problem if pressure were to quickly indicate zero in flight?

Thanks.

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Old 15th June 2009, 23:09   #1619 (permalink)
 
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Inferences

Whirlwind, I just meant to add what I recalled on that particular subject, not to imply that it had a bearing on the tragic accident in Canada. I mean, its very nice to know that one can lose both pumps etc etc, but that test is not particularly relevant to the issue at hand.

Thanks,
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Old 16th June 2009, 02:25   #1620 (permalink)
 
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Difficult subject. No inference taken or intended. Very tragic accident.

Probably a subject best left to the experts, and I'm not one of those.

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