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Old 27th Aug 2015, 15:29
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On the east side of the pond and I think in the antipodes, the guys who train and check are called Training Captains. (There are some Training F/Os) I emphasise they are examiners who can sign off one for a recurrent check or for part of a conversion course but can also instruct on a conversion course or during the instructional part of the recurrent check. There is also a beast called a Route (or Line) Check Captain who does the annual check on performance when flying a revenue sector.

The cousins who fly under the auspices of the FAA (and Transport Canada - I think) have Pilots called Check Airman.

Who does what and what are they called in the States? (For Route Training they do something called IOE, Initial Operating Experience when converting?)

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Training Instructor: Ground and/or Simulator instructor. Cannot give check rides.

Simulator Check Airman: Can give annual Proficiency Checks.

DE (Designated Examinrer) or TCE (Training Center Examiner): Can give ATP and Type Ratings in the simulator.

Line Check Airman: Can give annual line checks in the airplane, as well as OE and IOE.

IOE (Initial Operating Experience): Initial flights in an airplane type at an airline under supervision of a Line Check Airman.

OE (Operating Experience): Initial flights in an airplane as a Captain under supervision of a Line Check Airman. IOE and OE are ~25 hours and/or 6-8 segments.
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It's all OE now, for FOs and Captains. IOE is a term that won't go away, like a BFR.
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Originally Posted by Intruder
• Training Instructor: Ground and/or Simulator instructor. Cannot give check rides.
• Simulator Check Airman: Can give annual Proficiency Checks.
• DE (Designated Examinrer) or TCE (Training Center Examiner): Can give ATP and Type Ratings in the simulator.
•Line Check Airman: Can give annual line checks in the airplane, as well as OE and IOE.
• IOE (Initial Operating Experience): Initial flights in an airplane type at an airline under supervision of a Line Check Airman.
• OE (Operating Experience): Initial flights in an airplane as a Captain under supervision of a Line Check Airman. IOE and OE are ~25 hours and/or 6-8 segments.
Hi Intruder – speaking for the rules/regs in the US… (if memory serves … and there are some doubts about that particular aspect … as, I understand, is typical of those of us who have managed to tear calendar pages off the wall by the hands full for as long as I have …)
•A Simulator Check Airman can, indeed conduct annual proficiency checks … but only in the simulator. The title used on the certificate is usually “Check Airman – Simulator.” Check Airmen who can conduct proficiency checks in the airplane are have the title “Check Airman – Airplane.”
•Again, the DE or TCE have any applicable ‘limitations’ indicated in the title … such as DE Airplane, DE Simulator, or DE Airplane / Simulator
•The same holds true for TCE’s – understanding that most designations for Training Centers are for ‘simulator’ application only, as very few Training Centers actually conduct training and/or checks in the airplane.
•Your references regarding Line Check Airmen are essentially correct, except that in some cases a F/O new to the airplane or the airline, may function in that category with a specifically designated Captain, authorized to conduct F/O IOE flying in the left seat, without his/her necessitating a designation as a Line Check Airman.
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