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Old 11th Apr 2014, 06:10
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length of the base turn

Hi guys,
I have been trying to find some information on this.

When it comes to the length of the outbound leg in a base turn, generally that turning point is given by either a DME distance or a time check. However there are some charts where the length of the outbound leg is not given. There are a few examples of such thing.

In this case what would be the standard length of the outbound leg? Been checking the whole document 8168 document and maybe I missed something but could not find nothing.

Anybody there that could clarify that?
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I recall that the timing for a 45/180 procedure turn is 1 minute for Cat A & B, or, 1 minute 15 secs for Cat C, D, or E. I'm now retired and not up to speed of where the definitive information can be found.

Manchester (EGCC) has such a procedure turn for the ILS/DME (MCT) RWY 24R.
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hi TheChitterneFlyer,

thanks for the quick answer, you are right for a 45/180 turn procedure it is as you say 1 min for A and B and 1 min 15 sec for B,C and D.

However I was more specifically asking about a base turn similar to the VOR 16 in RJFF or the VOR 17 in RORS. There is only a note to commence the turn within a specific DME but not given any DME when tu initiate the turn.
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14 nm to 1500' is indeed the limit
Use 3 mins from 'High Station' SJE
Have fun at Shimoji, it will get monotonous tho

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Then commence the turn within the specified DME!
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The timings for the outbound legs of base turns in 8168 is very vague. The diagrams or depicted on illustration 1-4-3-1, clearly indicating different timings for different outbound relative bearings, but with no proper guidance for angles vs time vs a/c cat?!?
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