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Old 4th Jun 2010, 17:30   #1 (permalink)
 
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Pilot Atlas

Hey everyone,

Flew with a Captain today who had a great pilot atlas but I can't find it on the internet anywhere. It was A5 size in a spiral bound format and was updated annually. It had useful information in such as waypoints, VOR's and airports with their respective runways and lengths.

Anyone know of any recommendations?
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Old 4th Jun 2010, 19:34   #2 (permalink)
 
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pilots atlas - The Pilots' Free Flight Atlas :: taking navigation a step further: Home

or for free try:
Planningcharts.de
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 06:59   #3 (permalink)
 
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The OP mentioned an A5 size. Anyone have info on an A5 spiral book?
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 07:18   #4 (permalink)
 
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Maybe this?http://www.maps4pilots.com
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 08:00   #5 (permalink)
 
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Perfect. Thank you
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 10:46   #6 (permalink)
 
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The maps 4 pilots app was a complete waste of money. Stick with the pilots atlas.
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 10:51   #7 (permalink)
 
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I disagree whole heatedly.

The Maps 4 Pilots has different info to pilots atlas.

Try finding out what approaches are available at an airport from Pilots Atlas. You cant. Pilots Atlas is big, bulky and heavy. All the info I need is in maps 4 pilots app.
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 11:01   #8 (permalink)
 
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Absolute tosh! My FMS also tells me what approaches an airport has. In what way is the pilots atlas heavy... Have you ever seen one?
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Old 30th Dec 2012, 13:51   #9 (permalink)
 
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I have had a pilots atlas since 2005.

When its a windy, foggy day and you are struggling to find your enroute alternates at planning stage in the Crewroom, how do you know which runway in Santiago is Cat III. Does Bordeaux have a Cat III approach? Is Nantes ILS to both ends? How do you find this out easily? You may know some of these answers off the top of your head, but I'm sure you don't know them all.

We don't have paper plates in Crewroom anymore, so this is a perfect aid to help planning.

Sorry to disagree. But why carry a pilots atlas in addition to your iPad which has the Maps4Pilots app on it.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 10:25   #10 (permalink)
 
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M-ONGO, The Maps4pilots app is free! Only if you liked the sample area would you pay to buy the different areas.The pilots Atlas is an atlas with too much information to be really useful except for the odd PA. The Maps4pilots app does not use the best features that an ipad app could offer, but if you liked the book version then its the first step in getting it in a digital format. And I have been told that they will add further functionality, features and areas in the future.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 14:07   #11 (permalink)
 
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Orions123 - Thank you!!! I agree totally.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 17:45   #12 (permalink)
 
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I would recommend the Airports app for the ipad/phone.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=airports+app&ie=UTF-8

An airport database for your flight bag, with a world wide VOLMET station list, NOTAMs, SNOWTAM decoder, METAR and TAF reports, Favourites, Tools, and the ability to save your own notes for those airports you visit frequently.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 17:56   #13 (permalink)
 
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I did pay

I still prefer the Pilots Atlas. I thought that by paying, more features/detail would be unlocked. Obviously not. Jeppview and the atlas work fine.
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 03:13   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks for the discussion and steering me towards this and the printed A5 version. Just got it, and what a great little book.

I do various projects on route planning, airport planning, airline economics, and airport compatability analyses, and this atlas is great. At a glance, all the airport alternates are laid out in front of me. And I can quickly look at runway length and elevation for performance, and terrain and approaches. This is a Low Cost Carrier's dream book
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