Base Training VS ZFTT

[coolio545]

Hi,

Just wanted to ask few question and if anyone could guide me through this.

I got my type rating on 767 but still not done base training due to some dates and internal problems of the company.

I would like to know,i have 450TT piston,if you can do your base training instead of an aircraft in a Simulator ZFTT,i guess it is level D,but not any idea.And if not,any place where i can be provided the base training in order to put my TR on my JAA.
Besides that,any idea about places for line training on this type.

Thank you.

[silverknapper]

As far as I know it has to be done in an aircraft with your experience level. I seem to remember a caveat about being able to do it in an approved sim only if you have 500hrs in an aircraft >10t or with more than 19 seats. But please check as this may be inaccurate.

[mr ripley]

Hope this helps

Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.261(c)(2)
Approval of Aeroplane Zero Flight Time Type Rating [ ]Courses
1 GENERAL
(a) Approval for ZFTT will only be given to a Training Organisation of an JAR-OPS 1 operator or a
Training Organisation having a specific approved arrangement with a JAR-OPS 1 operator.
(b) The training organisation shall ensure that the student pre-requisites are met before starting
the Type Rating Course.
(c) The Type Rating will be restricted to that Operator until flying under supervision has been
accomplished.
2 APPROVAL OF TYPE RATING COURSE USING ZFTT
(a) The flight simulator to be used shall be qualified in accordance with JAR–STD and user
approved for ZFTT by the Authority. User approval will only be given if the flight simulator is representative
of the aeroplane flown by the operator.
(b) The flight simulator approved for ZFTT shall be serviceable according to the quality system
criteria of the STD operator (see AMC STD 1A.025). Some equipment may be unserviceable provided that
it is not required during the simulator lesson. The motion and the visual shall br fully serviceable.
(c) Unless specified otherwise, a specific simulator session including a minimum of six additional
take-offs and landings included in the type rating course shall be conducted according to JAR-OPS
1.945(d)(2).
(d) For an initial approval to conduct ZFTT the operator shall have held a JAR–OPS Air Operator's
Certificate for at least one year. This period may be reduced at the discretion of the Authority where the
operator and the TRTO have experience of type rating training.
(e) Approval for ZFTT shall only be given if the operator has at least 90 days operational
experience of the aeroplane type. In the case of ZFTT provided by a training organisation having a
specific approved arrangement with a JAR-OPS 1 Operator, the 90 days operational experience
requirements will not apply if the TRI (A) involved in the additional take-offs and landings requirement in
JAR-OPS 1.945 (d)(2), has operational experience acceptable to the Authority on the aeroplance type.
(f) The check required in JAR-OPS 1.965(b) may be combined with the type rating skill test. When
this is not, a conversion course shall be conducted and a check completed according to JAR-OPS 1.945
before the specific simulator session.
3 REQUIRED PILOT EXPERIENCE
A pilot undertaking ZFTT course shall have completed, on a multi-pilot turbo-jet transport category
aeroplane or on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a MTOM of not less than 10 tonnes or an
approved passenger seating configuration of more than 19 passengers, at least:
(a) 1500 hours flight time or 250 route sectors if a flight simulator qualified to level CG, C or
interim C is used duering the course; or
(b) 500 hours flight time or 100 route sectors if a flight simulator qualified to level DG, Interim D or
D is used during the course.
When a pilot is changing from a turbo-prop to a turbo-jet aeroplane or from a turbo-jet to a turbo-prop
aeroplane, additional simulator training approved by the Authority shall be required.

[coolio545]

So the answer is a NO with my experience 500TT.
Then one needs at least 1500 hours and at least 500 on Jet for not doing the base training,isnt it?

By the way,does anyone know how long i have after the completition of my LST on simulator to do the base training according JAA,or more specificly for JAA Spain????

[mateusz]

21 days for us, not sure if that is the JAA rule or something else.