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Old 8th Dec 2002, 12:52   #1 (permalink)
 
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JAA CPL/IR to FAA CPL/IR

Anyone recommend a place I can go to convert my JAA license to a FAA one?

Cost, time and location would be helpful.

Thanks

dibs
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Old 8th Dec 2002, 16:18   #2 (permalink)
 
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Florida is good this time of year - plenty of options to choose from .

Budget for about $6000 for flying & writtens ( assuming you want ME privileges ) .

Should take about 3 weeks .
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Old 9th Dec 2002, 01:37   #3 (permalink)
 
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There is a handfull of places here in Florida, as long as you aviod the summer months (thunderstorms) will restrict number of flying days.
Why would you want to do the conversion though?
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Old 15th Dec 2002, 08:31   #4 (permalink)
 
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Faa Conversion?

HELO !
I HAVE A UK ATPL 3000 HRS 500 MULTI WITH IR
ANY INFO ON CONVERSION TO FAA ATPL PLEASE.

REGARDS

DEZA

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Old 15th Dec 2002, 12:12   #5 (permalink)
 
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Hi Deza,
I sat the part 135 ATP written here in UK and went to a school in OK USA to do a checkride for an ATP Multi engine land, I personally did a few hours with an instructor to make sure I was OFAY with it all though. The examiner will issue you with a temporary airman cert at the end of test and you will get your ATP proper in the post in due course.
Good luck, I really enjoyed my time over there.
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Old 15th Dec 2002, 15:55   #6 (permalink)
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Conversion info

Lots of info here about conversions:
http://www.harvsair.com/internationalstudents/index.htm
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Old 16th Dec 2002, 10:09   #7 (permalink)
 
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Pitts,
Thats all Canadian stuff, not FAA..

When I did my ATP's, if you had an ATPL you could get an FAA ATP by walking in to the local FSDO(with your written results), and get one issued on the spot. BUT if you wanted IFR priviliges, then you had to fly a checkride (a friend of mine has a DC10 VFR ONLY on his FAA ATP..).
Alot more reasonable than the crap you have to contend with to go from FAA to JAA
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Old 16th Dec 2002, 19:10   #8 (permalink)
 
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I converted from Oz to FAA ATP-MEL about 6 yrs ago. To do so I:

1. Did a US Class 1 medical.

2. Sat the Part 121 ATPL exam. Could have sat Part 135 (or whatever the TP version is) if I wanted to.

3. Flew whatever amount of instruction *I* felt was necessary.

4. Did a checkride with an ATP examiner. I could have chosen to do a S/E Land ATP or a M/E Sea or a S/E Sea or whatever.

The medical is easy. Took all of 10 mins, 5 of which was With the Dr.

2. The exam is easy. Buy the Gleim &/or ATP books. Multi-choice & very simple problem solving. No climb or descent calcs, single fuel flow for the entire flight (given to you. Ditto wind.) Hardest part is memorising the US IFR rules, especially since it's all in S.M. & fractions.

3. The flight test consists of manoeuvres under the hood eg stalls, steep turns etc plus 4 approaches (two precision, two non-precision). There is a ground 'grilling' first, similar to the Oz system & unlike the UK seems to be. Don't pass the ground grilling, don't go flying...

The approaches can be any combination that is available on the ground & that the a/c is equipped to use. Some will be asymmetric. The precision approaches must be within 1/4 scale tolerance.

NB: The USA has a greater variety of non-precision approaches to Oz or UK eg Simplified Directional Facility, LLZ Type Directional Aid, Back course LLZ etc etc.

If the a/c is equipped & the aid is available you can be asked to do it.

It wasn't an 'IFR' flight for my test. Just go up & demonstrate the specific sequences as required by the 'Practical Test Standard' as published by the FAA. What's in this book (available at all good bookstores. Call now to reserve your copy... ) is what you'll have to demonstrate.

I stuffed up my 1st VOR approach. Wasn't expecting to be vectored direct to the FAF without at least being told that's where the controller was taking me. Spent a few minutes working that one out & by the time I did I'd already flown through the 1/2 scale tolerance & out the other side. Duhhhhhhh.

At the that point he recorded a fail & I had to resit just the 4 approaches. He said he was impressed with the other parts (Thank christ!).

Did those a few days later after appropriate remedial training as must be specified by the examiner.

The examiner is responsible for determining if you meet all the FAA requirements for the issue of the certificate. If s/he determines this to be the case then s/he issues you with a temp. certificate valid while waiting the couple of weeks to receive the FAA permanently valid one.

You immediately have the privileges of the certificate once the examiner signs the temporary bit of paper.

Compare this with the archaic & bureaucratic UK/JAR carry on...


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Old 16th Dec 2002, 19:18   #9 (permalink)
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Well that settles that then! Thanks Tinny for the useful info.

As soon as I have my JAR CPL/IR fATPL I shall be tottling back to the States to get the US ticket too!

Just need to keep that burd I met over there "sweet" so I can get US residency......

VFE.
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Old 16th Dec 2002, 20:29   #10 (permalink)
 
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FAA conversions

Ari Ben Aviator in Florida is pretty good and reasonable rates and they are associated with EFT.

Best of Luck
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Old 17th Dec 2002, 07:46   #11 (permalink)
 
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thanks

So it is cheaper to do JAA stuff in the states and FAA stuff in the UK - what a crazy world.

Thanks for the tip though, I will be looking into it straight away...

dibs
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Old 17th Dec 2002, 08:48   #12 (permalink)
 
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thaks for info guys ! seems to be a lot of jobs at the moment for n reg exec jobs
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