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Old 5th Aug 2002, 12:22   #1 (permalink)
 
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So how do we afford 50K!!!!

I keep looking at threads on PPRuNe and everyone goes on about 35k being a good price for the CPL/IR but to me 35k is a hell of a lot of money( fair enough its money well spent if you fullfill your dream) so how do we all afford these courses. I know about the usual, sponsorship, bankloans, overdrafts and family help but are there any other ways?????
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 12:29   #2 (permalink)
 
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Robbery.
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 12:36   #3 (permalink)
 
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Time.

In the last ten years I've probably pissed 35,000 up the wall.
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 12:51   #4 (permalink)
 
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Beg, borrow, steal and save. I spent my entire savings on my trainning, wish I'd spent it on a second house now (3years ago), sold it then spent the profit on it. Now's not the time to be rushing into trainning anyway.
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 13:38   #5 (permalink)
 
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So you dont think i should start my full time CPL/IR in the near future??
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 13:48   #6 (permalink)
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Now may be a good time to make a start on modular training. Don't go giving up the day job (if you have one) yet - get cracking on part time training - it'll take you well over a year (assuming you're going from a standing start) to be in the position where you need to train full time, by that time we'll know more about Gulf War 2 and any job market recovery.

You'll also pay less by going modular.

With things as they are I personally wouldn't go for integrated training at the moment.

The prospects are dreadful for low-hour fATPLs at the moment believe me (and I'm lucky enough to have a non-aviation job to pay for IR renewals, beer, loan repayments etc.).

cheers!
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 13:58   #7 (permalink)
 
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Sound advice from Foggy. Don't rush in head first just yet
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 14:25   #8 (permalink)
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By the way I'd say that £35,000 is a little light for a CPL/IR. I'd budget £40,000 for modular, £60,000 for Integrated.

Very very few people get through on minimum hours with full sets of first time passes that the course fees advertised by schools are based upon.

It's a long long process and you always end up spending more than you'd like. It's just one of those many things that needs to be taken on the chin in aviation.

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Old 5th Aug 2002, 14:38   #9 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. Currently dispatching at LGW so may just do the part time things for now!!!!
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 16:02   #10 (permalink)
 
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Dont forget that in the period between becoming qualified and getting your first job, you need to remain current. This means renewing ratings and medical and getting as many hours practice as possible. This all adds up too. I estimate that I've spent in exess of £50 000 and I've got another renewal coming up soon.

So where do you get this money? Its easy.....Fraud.

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Old 5th Aug 2002, 17:47   #11 (permalink)
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Train to be a table dancer like me!!!!!!!!
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Old 5th Aug 2002, 18:44   #12 (permalink)
 
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Foggys got it pretty much spot on. You're in a good position at Gatwick, see if you can do a bit of subtle 'networking' whilst your there, ask questions and get to know people but don't become a pest etc.
Most jobs are not advertised and a bit of inside knowlage goes a long way. Almost everyone I know who has got a job in the last year (and thats not many) got a 'nod' from the inside.

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Old 6th Aug 2002, 01:58   #13 (permalink)
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G-Spot - you just paraphrased something I once said on this forum about the journey several years ago. Felt spooky reading that. You are so right.

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Old 6th Aug 2002, 07:15   #14 (permalink)
 
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If you are in a position to start training now, I would if I were you. There will be a big shortage of pilots in the next 2 to 3 years, believe me. Why?

Here is why. Most people are doing exactly, as some of them above with their advise to you. They simply will not take the "gamble" therefore very few trainees coming through.

You have to have the licence to be concidered for the job that comes up.
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