Getting that first job?

[Qu1ksilver]

I'm trying to research what the job market is like currently and also what it 'might' be forecasted to be in say a couple of years. Are there likely to be piles of qualified ATPL holders in lots of debt who can't get a job? Or is it looking good in terms of getting a job?

Also, the only route financially possible for me would be a modular route so how disadvantaged would this leave me in terms of getting that first job?

Thanks

[ersa]

If your talking rotary forget it, fixed wing there seems to be a lot advertised for co-pilots.

avoid modular if you have the choice of integrated , the fixed wing mobs like the latter.

Your competing with people that have money to burn, in some circles not all but some.

[Qu1ksilver]

Thanks for the replies. It's such a tough call to make! Modular is realistically my only option so to try and weigh up the added difficulty of getting a job, plus hoping there even are jobs available is the problem!

Don't know what to do 😩

[Bloated Stomach]

I personally know modular guys getting jobs within 10 days - 9 years. It's a mixture of pure luck and being in the right place at the right time.

Personally, I trained modular as well and found my first job after 4.5 years.

This is your decision and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Take plenty of advice and treat integrated school's marketing with a pinch of salt. I personally know an integrated guy from CTC who paid over £100K and they refused to place him.

[portsharbourflyer]

You can't predict the future market, personally while it is sensible to think about the out lay involved, the decision to train as a commercial pilot should be based around the passion to fly. If you think about this in a rational way you wouldn't do it.


So if you are hesitating then I would say this isn't for you.

If you are single with no commitments then finding work is readily achievable.

[SeventhHeaven]

Readily available? Would you mind giving me advice, as I've been looking for 2.5 years now?

[rzvanpopescu]

Hello there,

I'm interested into attending a pilot school in about one year.
The available money for me will leave me not many opportunities, but Bartolini school is achievable. After that I intend to do the MCC/JOC at some schools with good reputation. Do you know success stories about pilots who graduated from Bartolini ?
Thanks

[AlphaMale]

I have a friend that just got a job with Thomas Cook, he was on Mod 1 with me at BGS. He gave up work and did his PPL/ATPL in about 7 ish months.

He then went straight to Bartolini for his CPL/IR (Zero-fATPL in 11 months) got his FIC done and worked as a FI for whole summer in the UK. A dedicated and friendly guy and glad to see he got the job. Bartolini certainly wasn't a restricting factor for him.

[jamesgrainge]

Originally Posted by Qu1ksilver

Thanks for the replies. It's such a tough call to make! Modular is realistically my only option so to try and weigh up the added difficulty of getting a job, plus hoping there even are jobs available is the problem!

Don't know what to do 😩

If you can't live without Flying then the choice is obvious, if however, your motivation is for good pay and lifestyle there are many easier choices for careers that are more guaranteed and easily achieved. Only fly because you love flying, not just because of the perceived benefits. Every time I land I can't wait till the next time I can fly, and I know it's only money why I don't fly every single day, all day.

[inabw]

Sorry guys, but after that someone has completed the licenses, how can he find a job if he hasn't money for type rating and he has only 250 h???I see only job posting for pilots with 500/1000/2000 and more hours. Is it really hard get First job without p2f a line training and tr?

[inabw]

Yes, i'm considering like only sustenaible alternative at the moment. In my country there aren't possibilities because our major airlines don't hire since many many years, and if you 'r lucky you need hundreds hours on type and experience.
Omg, i really love this field, but is really hard if you don't have the money of your parents.
We needed to born in 60's or 70's, good times for aviation

[SeventhHeaven]

The problem of FI work is that it probably only pays 15-20-25€ per flying hour (before taxes even), and that's it. Instructing is hella fun, but my wife would kill me if I decided to do it fulltime! Damn shame really, I think I'd enjoy it more than airline flying!

[inabw]

Yes is true what your saying. I think maybe part time and get my actual job.

[jamesgrainge]

Originally Posted by Council Van

and then one day as you drag yourself out of bed at 3am you realise it's only a job, a good job, but still only a job.

Beats dragging yourself from your bed at 3am to drive a truck. And then again the rest of the week.

[paco]

Well said, BPI. I would only add what I tell the grandkids - if your destiny is to be a pilot, then the Management will arrange it. But you won't get there unless you have a licence.

James - but isn't that what flying is anyway? You're either a truck driver, a bus driver or a taxi driver!

[jamesgrainge]

Less to hit in the sky? Plus being a pilot means you don't have to work every day, 48 weeks a year, until you are 70 and ruined.

[paco]

You can do that in Canada and be ruined at 60. You might get Christmas day off, though....

[jamesgrainge]

That's great, I love Christmas!