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Hi guys, I completed and passed my Instrument Rating in September 2013 in the UK. I haven't done any Instrument Flying or Flying in general from that date to now due to financial reasons. I was wondering, when does my IR expire? I've read 5 years I need to do a flight test with a CAA examiner and 7 years I need to re-do the ATPL theory exams again. Can someone confirm the updated exact years please. If I am under the 5 years, then I would just need a few IR refresher lessons and a test with the school's IR examiner right? Thanks so much.
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Hi, your IR expired 1 year after your skills test. The expiry date is also noted on your license. To figure out how much training you need to renew it, see below!
SUBPART G — INSTRUMENT RATING — IR
AMC1 FCL.625(c) IR — Validity, revalidation and renewal
RENEWAL OF INSTRUMENT RATING: REFRESHER TRAINING
(a) Paragraph (b)(1) of FCL.740 determines that if the instrument rating has lapsed, the applicant shall go through refresher training at an ATO, to reach the level of proficiency needed to pass the instrument element of the skill test prescribed in Appendix 9 to Part-FCL. The amount of refresher training needed should be determined on a case-by-case basis by the ATO, taking into account the following factors:
(1) the experience of the applicant. To determine this, the ATO should evaluate the pilot’s log book, and, if necessary, conduct a test in an FSTD.
(2) the amount of time lapsed since the expiry of the validity period of the rating. The amount of training needed to reach the desired level of proficiency should increase with the time lapsed. In some cases, after evaluating the pilot, and when the time lapsed is very limited (less than 3 months), the ATO may even determine that no further refresher training is necessary. The following may be taken as guidance when determining the needs of the applicant:
(i) expiry for a period shorter than 3 months: no supplementary requirements;
(ii) expiry for longer than 3 months but shorter than 1 year: a minimum of one training session;
(iii) expiry for longer than 1 year but shorter than 7 years: a minimum of three training sessions;
(iv) expiry for longer than 7 years: the applicant should undergo the full training course for the issue of the IR.
(b) Once the ATO has determined the needs of the applicant, it should develop an individual training programme, which should be based on the initial training for the issue of instrument ratings and focus on the aspects where the applicant has shown the greatest needs.
(c) After successful completion of the training, the ATO should give a certificate to the applicant, to be submitted to the competent authority when applying for the renewal.
Note that training sessions don't need to be in an aircraft!
AMC1 FCL.625(c) IR — Validity, revalidation and renewal
RENEWAL OF INSTRUMENT RATING: REFRESHER TRAINING
(a) Paragraph (b)(1) of FCL.740 determines that if the instrument rating has lapsed, the applicant shall go through refresher training at an ATO, to reach the level of proficiency needed to pass the instrument element of the skill test prescribed in Appendix 9 to Part-FCL. The amount of refresher training needed should be determined on a case-by-case basis by the ATO, taking into account the following factors:
(1) the experience of the applicant. To determine this, the ATO should evaluate the pilot’s log book, and, if necessary, conduct a test in an FSTD.
(2) the amount of time lapsed since the expiry of the validity period of the rating. The amount of training needed to reach the desired level of proficiency should increase with the time lapsed. In some cases, after evaluating the pilot, and when the time lapsed is very limited (less than 3 months), the ATO may even determine that no further refresher training is necessary. The following may be taken as guidance when determining the needs of the applicant:
(i) expiry for a period shorter than 3 months: no supplementary requirements;
(ii) expiry for longer than 3 months but shorter than 1 year: a minimum of one training session;
(iii) expiry for longer than 1 year but shorter than 7 years: a minimum of three training sessions;
(iv) expiry for longer than 7 years: the applicant should undergo the full training course for the issue of the IR.
(b) Once the ATO has determined the needs of the applicant, it should develop an individual training programme, which should be based on the initial training for the issue of instrument ratings and focus on the aspects where the applicant has shown the greatest needs.
(c) After successful completion of the training, the ATO should give a certificate to the applicant, to be submitted to the competent authority when applying for the renewal.
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Thank you so much! Just one quick question. I've heard about the 5 year period that if you haven't renewed it after 5 years then when you complete the training session, the actual skills test has to be done by a CAA examiner and can't be done by the approved flight school examiner. Is this true?
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Deleted because wrong.
The 5 year thing was pre-EASA in the UK. Therefore it is now no longer enforced/relevant.
The 5 year thing was pre-EASA in the UK. Therefore it is now no longer enforced/relevant.
Last edited by SeventhHeaven; 17th Jul 2016 at 09:54. Reason: I was wrong
