Flying Single Engine IFR with a ME/IR?
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Flying Single Engine IFR with a ME/IR?
Hi, I've searched for this and can't find much in the way of a definitive answer, so any help appreciated.
Hypothetical situation: Pilot x has a f/ATPL with MEIR, and wants to fly an IFR capable single under IFR, routing via airways with a SID/STAR with B-RNAV etc etc - is this legal, or would this pilot have to undertake a conversion to have SEIR added to his/her licence?
Hypothetical situation: Pilot x has a f/ATPL with MEIR, and wants to fly an IFR capable single under IFR, routing via airways with a SID/STAR with B-RNAV etc etc - is this legal, or would this pilot have to undertake a conversion to have SEIR added to his/her licence?
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MEIR(SPA) automatically gives SE privileges. CAP 804 Section 4 Part L p45.
A bugger to find I know!
A bugger to find I know!
I do know that the old JAA license did allow SE IFR on a MEIR rating, but according to Part-FCL they are now two different rating and skill tests.
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To my knowledge this issue is in discussion right now. There are EASA countries where the privileges are included and there are some denying it today. Brave New World and it is the usual 
suspects again ...
Isn't it time to finally grant country status to the EU and disable these short minded local hero butt-heads?
suspects again ...Isn't it time to finally grant country status to the EU and disable these short minded local hero butt-heads?
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EASA legislation does not currently provide for SE privileges with a ME/IR as JAR-FCL did, a discussion I have had with my authority.
At present it is not clear how this is to be handled. I know the UK CAA has got round this by annotating the Rating as both SE and ME privileges. Others do not so the licence holders privileges are not 100% clear.
At present it is not clear how this is to be handled. I know the UK CAA has got round this by annotating the Rating as both SE and ME privileges. Others do not so the licence holders privileges are not 100% clear.
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Negative. Appendix 8 is only applicable for revalidations, as mentioned in the introduction of the overview in cap and easa fcl. For a IR/SE a seperate skill test is needed on a SE airplane. After passing the skill test and doing a prof check (when revalidating the me-ir) on a multi, cross crediting is provided to a single engine. At least this is how The Netherlands is issueing the licence: only mep/ir/me.
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XanderFly, That what they telling me here in Holland as well. I can understand their reasoning. But my problem is I had a JAA license and the JAR-FCL specifically says that a ME-IR is also valid for SE. When they changed my license for a EASA one, I lost my SE-IR privileges which I don't believe is correct.
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It's perfectly correct according to the regulation as the sentence that specifically stated that ME privileges also gave SE has gone in the transition from JAR-FCL to Aircrew Regulation.
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It's perfectly correct according to the regulation as the sentence that specifically stated that ME privileges also gave SE has gone in the transition from JAR-FCL to Aircrew Regulation.
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I wasn't saying it is a fair thing to have done but according to law it is correct. I lost my SE/IR privileges so I had to renew and now keep both current with a prof check on the MEP class.
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If a pilot has a single pilot ME IR, then those privileges may also be exercised on single engine aircraft, provided that the pilot holds a valid class/type rating for that aircraft. End of....
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Sorry but it is not stated anywhere in EASA legislation, the IAA have the same opinion.
I'm hoping they will add the sentence that was removed in the next update although I fear it will be missed again.
I'm hoping they will add the sentence that was removed in the next update although I fear it will be missed again.
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It obviously still depends on your NAA.
I had my EASA IR(A) issued by the UK CAA earlier this year after undertaking a CBIR (ME), and my licence states: 'IR-SP-ME class/SE'. Therefore mine does include SE IR privileges.
I had my EASA IR(A) issued by the UK CAA earlier this year after undertaking a CBIR (ME), and my licence states: 'IR-SP-ME class/SE'. Therefore mine does include SE IR privileges.