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Hello All,
My first thread on PPRUNE, I've completed an advanced search on COMMAND but haven't found any info so here goes...
I'm looking for opinions, advice, views and comments on their offer and any ideas on the realistic job prospects after completing their program. (Website http://www.commandpilottraining.com/) or summarised below.
- FAA PPL, hour building, CPL and IR completed in Florida, USA - while distance learning the EASA ATPL subjects.
- EASA CPL conversion (UK)
- EASA Multi-Engine IR (UK)
- Upset Recovery training
- MCC and JOC
- Jet Type Rating (Usually on a Citation I believe) (UK)
- Guaranteed Interview as a recommended candidate (interview coaching/prep course included).
- Cost includes flights and accommodation.
TOTAL COST QUOTED AS: £78,000
It all seems very excellent and what most integrated courses offer, the website gives lots of assurances (as most FTO websites do) about job prospects after completing their program. My dealings with them so far have been very professional and refreshingly they seem to care about their prospective students, which is more than can be said about the likes of CTC and OAA (who both are yet to respond to my queries made almost 6 months ago now). The Jet type rating seems very advantageous and great value for money. It almost seems too good to be true. So, PPRUNE, my question is basically....is it too good to be true? Is a Citation rating really useful if airline flying is your goal?
My first thread on PPRUNE, I've completed an advanced search on COMMAND but haven't found any info so here goes...
I'm looking for opinions, advice, views and comments on their offer and any ideas on the realistic job prospects after completing their program. (Website http://www.commandpilottraining.com/) or summarised below.
- FAA PPL, hour building, CPL and IR completed in Florida, USA - while distance learning the EASA ATPL subjects.
- EASA CPL conversion (UK)
- EASA Multi-Engine IR (UK)
- Upset Recovery training
- MCC and JOC
- Jet Type Rating (Usually on a Citation I believe) (UK)
- Guaranteed Interview as a recommended candidate (interview coaching/prep course included).
- Cost includes flights and accommodation.
TOTAL COST QUOTED AS: £78,000
It all seems very excellent and what most integrated courses offer, the website gives lots of assurances (as most FTO websites do) about job prospects after completing their program. My dealings with them so far have been very professional and refreshingly they seem to care about their prospective students, which is more than can be said about the likes of CTC and OAA (who both are yet to respond to my queries made almost 6 months ago now). The Jet type rating seems very advantageous and great value for money. It almost seems too good to be true. So, PPRUNE, my question is basically....is it too good to be true? Is a Citation rating really useful if airline flying is your goal?
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Almon,
Looking at the course and how its structured, its pretty much back and fourth to the states. There is a much more optimum way of doing it.
USA Portion
FAA PPL (3-6 weeks)
EASA ATPL (3-6months)
FAA IR and Hour building (3-6 weeks)
EASA MECPL (3-6 weeks)
FAA MECPL (1-3 weeks)
UK
FAA IR Conversion (3-6 weeks)
MCC/JOC (5days)
.........
During your EASA ATPL's you can do a bit of hour building but from experience you will not have time.
The question you should be asking the ATO is how many students have been offered a job after training. What criteria must be met to be suitable for an interview etc. An interview means nothing.
Feel free to PM me.
PS im a GLA resident.
Looking at the course and how its structured, its pretty much back and fourth to the states. There is a much more optimum way of doing it.
USA Portion
FAA PPL (3-6 weeks)
EASA ATPL (3-6months)
FAA IR and Hour building (3-6 weeks)
EASA MECPL (3-6 weeks)
FAA MECPL (1-3 weeks)
UK
FAA IR Conversion (3-6 weeks)
MCC/JOC (5days)
.........
During your EASA ATPL's you can do a bit of hour building but from experience you will not have time.
The question you should be asking the ATO is how many students have been offered a job after training. What criteria must be met to be suitable for an interview etc. An interview means nothing.
Feel free to PM me.
PS im a GLA resident.
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Thanks for the info B737,
If I may add that I have a South African PPL and Night Rating with 96hrs TT. What would you do next in my situation. I have started the Bristol EASA ATPL distance learning course. (Based in GLA).
The attraction for me with command is the jet type rating. I am hoping that I can slot into their program at the end of the PPL section and simply convert my SA PPL. This ought to save some time and money but still give me access to the MCC, JOC, Type Rating, Interview coaching and the guaranteed interview. Is a Citation rating going to be a big advantage on my CV? (When applying for airlines). Obviously I would be more than happy getting Citation work too.
I could continue the self organised Modular route but the organisation and reputation of Command seem to be worth a serious think about.
If I may add that I have a South African PPL and Night Rating with 96hrs TT. What would you do next in my situation. I have started the Bristol EASA ATPL distance learning course. (Based in GLA).
The attraction for me with command is the jet type rating. I am hoping that I can slot into their program at the end of the PPL section and simply convert my SA PPL. This ought to save some time and money but still give me access to the MCC, JOC, Type Rating, Interview coaching and the guaranteed interview. Is a Citation rating going to be a big advantage on my CV? (When applying for airlines). Obviously I would be more than happy getting Citation work too.
I could continue the self organised Modular route but the organisation and reputation of Command seem to be worth a serious think about.
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A type rating with no hours is worthless unfortunately.
I would suggest doing your ATPL's which you are already doing. Once they are done, I would hour build, FAA IR, and do the EASA CPL preferably in the states, due to the fact it will be a bit cheaper and most importantly the weather is a lot more predictable.
I would then convert the the FAA IR to EASA via a UK school or even at Aerodynamics in Malaga.
I have never heard of Command training school so i can't vouch for them but the only schools i know of that get you a job after training is either OAA or CTC.
Again, I think the questions that need to be answered are what are the jobs prospects are like with the partnered company? What does suitable candidate mean? etc.
I would suggest doing your ATPL's which you are already doing. Once they are done, I would hour build, FAA IR, and do the EASA CPL preferably in the states, due to the fact it will be a bit cheaper and most importantly the weather is a lot more predictable.
I would then convert the the FAA IR to EASA via a UK school or even at Aerodynamics in Malaga.
I have never heard of Command training school so i can't vouch for them but the only schools i know of that get you a job after training is either OAA or CTC.
Again, I think the questions that need to be answered are what are the jobs prospects are like with the partnered company? What does suitable candidate mean? etc.
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Command Pilot Training are what used to be called Atlantic Training Support or more recently Atlantic Training Academy based at Coventry Airport (a different company from the similarly named Atlantic Flight Training).
https://www.facebook.com/AtlanticTrainingAcademy
https://www.facebook.com/AtlanticTrainingAcademy
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Thanks for the detailed advice, I appreciate it. I will attend their free assessment soon and ask these further questions. Its another good pointer for them that the assessment is completely free and includes, depending on weather, a flight assessment in a Robinson.
Either way its reassuring that there are plenty of options for me.
Either way its reassuring that there are plenty of options for me.
