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Old 7th Jun 2014, 18:28
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FAA PPL and hours building

Hi there peeps,

I have a few questions about going from FAA PPL to EASA frozen ATPL. I'm really considering this option, but have some few questions about it.

EASA CPL asks for an ICAO PPL, and the FAA PPL is an ICAO license so nothing wrong about that. But are there some other costs which come along when going from FAA PPL to EASA CPL? Any conversions needed or so?

If the candidate has:
- FAA PPL
- required hours for EASA CPL
- included with 5hrs night flying and 20hrs VFR cross country flying (300nm on 2 different airports)

Does the candidate need to have some conversions or so? Or can the candidate just start with his ATPL theory?




Oh and another thing, do you guys think that the FAA PPL Pilot's handbook of aeronatical knowledge would be enough for the FAA PPL written test?
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So far as I know, there's no problem and you can just get on with your EASA ATPL or CPL TK training, then the flying training so long as you have the right hours.

There is one gotcha however - there are circumstances during hour building where in FAAland you'd be entitled to log the hours, and in EASAland you can't. There may be others, but the two I know are:-

(1) aeroplanes within the EASA microlight category - say a CTSW for example. These would be logged in FAAland as SEL (Single Engine Land) whilst in EASAland it would be logged as microlight and not counted as SEP (Single Engine Piston for CPL experience* or PPL currency purposes).

(2) there are circumstances where in FAAland two qualified pilots flying together can both log the time as PiC. This is prohibited in EASAland, where in single pilot aeroplanes either you're pilot + pax, or instructor + student, and apart from the very occasional case of examinee + examiner, only one person can ever log PiC at a time.


I resolve these issues (as I hold both EASA and FAA licences) by using a reasonably sophisticated electronic logbook that just adds up the numbers in two different ways and I provide different summaries in the two different regimes.


* You can count a small percentage for the CPL minima only - 10% up to a total of 10 hours I think, but you'll have to check that yourself.
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Old 9th Jun 2014, 13:37
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Thank you very much.

The PIC that I will count will be the solo ones (gained after obtaining the PPL). Besides that, the 152 isn't a microlight airplane so it will not give a problem I think.

Any tips/very recent database for the PPL knowledge test?

After gaining the FAA PPL + EASA frozen ATPL, will this mean that I can fly a single engine airplane in EASAland or not? Or will the FAA PPL automatically transfer into an EASA PPL?
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An EASA fATPL is a non-licence of course, more a concept or collective noun. It is the collection of:-

Passes in ATPL writtens
CPL
ME/IR
MCC

Your CPL will have embedded PPL privileges, and so long as you did a skill test at some point in SEP, you'll be able to fly SEP in EASAland.

Most people do the CPL in a complex single, then ME/IR separately, and that route will ensure you can fly privately.

Certainly here in Britain you can fly an SEP on an FAA PPL(SEL) anyhow, but other countries may differ.
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What about the NQ? In FAA land there is not such a thing.. but you can fly during the night I believe right?

How many PIC flight hours would you guys recommend after geining the FAA PPL?
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The FAA private pilot training includes 3 hours of night flying unless you train in Alaska. There you can complete your training but you have one year to get the night time.
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