Euro American School of Aviation Ormond Beach FL - AVOID!!!!!!!
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Euro American School of Aviation Ormond Beach FL - AVOID!!!!!!!
also known as Ormond Beach Aviation
These guys are just there to nab your money and then mess you about until the cows come home. I went there foolishly as they appeared to be cheaper than other set ups but don't be fooled by that because by the time you have left, you have paid way over what you thought you were going to pay!
They promise a 3 week PPL. Out of about 20 students not one I know of completed on time. I met people there who were back for the fourth time to complete their PPL.
On day one they get you to sign a lengthy contract which they think absolves then from any law suits. They will also demand money up front. If you want to pay as you go then you will be charged a higher rate.
They try and get you to stay in their accommodation where there's up to 10 people in a house and 3 to a room and charge you extortionate rates. You can get a hotel much much cheaper.
They will offer to collect you from the airport for $105 each way. You can hire a car for a whole week with that amount.
Once they have your money they don't care any more and will drag it out as much as they can in order for you to return, more money for them! The staff/istructors are rude and not approachable.
Out of the 20 odd students not one happy pilot! In my opinion the WORST school ever. AVOID at all costs.
These guys are just there to nab your money and then mess you about until the cows come home. I went there foolishly as they appeared to be cheaper than other set ups but don't be fooled by that because by the time you have left, you have paid way over what you thought you were going to pay!
They promise a 3 week PPL. Out of about 20 students not one I know of completed on time. I met people there who were back for the fourth time to complete their PPL.
On day one they get you to sign a lengthy contract which they think absolves then from any law suits. They will also demand money up front. If you want to pay as you go then you will be charged a higher rate.
They try and get you to stay in their accommodation where there's up to 10 people in a house and 3 to a room and charge you extortionate rates. You can get a hotel much much cheaper.
They will offer to collect you from the airport for $105 each way. You can hire a car for a whole week with that amount.
Once they have your money they don't care any more and will drag it out as much as they can in order for you to return, more money for them! The staff/istructors are rude and not approachable.
Out of the 20 odd students not one happy pilot! In my opinion the WORST school ever. AVOID at all costs.
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Two pieces of advice that i was given that have seen me right all thoughout my training so far:
1. Never pay up front
2. Stay away from the US
Those of us in the know will tell you this is quite improbable.
We all learn from our mistakes
1. Never pay up front
2. Stay away from the US
They promise a 3 week PPL.
We all learn from our mistakes
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3 week ppl isn't impossible but is extremely hard work.
When I was an instructor I did several in the UK. In fact one chap did it in two but he did turn up with all the exams done and the RT out of the way.
This schools issues are from the top down. There are issues with some students turning up who just don't have the aplitude or the head on them to learn within the three weeks. But the customer service and attitude to the customer hasn't changed since pprune started.
When I was an instructor I did several in the UK. In fact one chap did it in two but he did turn up with all the exams done and the RT out of the way.
This schools issues are from the top down. There are issues with some students turning up who just don't have the aplitude or the head on them to learn within the three weeks. But the customer service and attitude to the customer hasn't changed since pprune started.
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1. Some students do have the right attitude and they still fall foul in the schools. AT is famous for taking an instant dislike to someone coming in through the door and seems to enjoy making there life hell.
2. Claiming back by credit card can be a huge pain in the bum especially if the schools starts waving contracts which they have years and years of practise and pissed off students to get right for making life difficult. And by the time you add the extra on for paying by CC most of your savings have disappeared and well the schools know it.
3. It is a pain in the arse I have been through it. And there is always the chance that they will refuse you entry and your deposite is gone.
4. More money and they can cancel it, and then you have to leave before coming back in again. There are a couple of known names who like to do this. They will also have penalty clauses which mean you will loose big time thus removing any benefit on price again.
5.Alot of us agree with that completely and hopefully they will get thier finger out and do as you say, at the schools cost of course.
6. Again adds to the cost which isn't included in the headline cost which folk only find out when over there. You don't need it at home either type so add that on to the headline price.
7. They are well sussed in making sure problems go away. Anyway it will add weeks onto your time and also cost a fortune due to penalty payments.
8. Yep and you would have thought that the stupid bastards could get it right after all these years they have been doing it. But they still make a pigs arse of it for no apprant reason. But to be fair UK schools do the same but at least you can get to them to sort it out.
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2. Claiming back by credit card can be a huge pain in the bum especially if the schools starts waving contracts which they have years and years of practise and pissed off students to get right for making life difficult. And by the time you add the extra on for paying by CC most of your savings have disappeared and well the schools know it.
3. It is a pain in the arse I have been through it. And there is always the chance that they will refuse you entry and your deposite is gone.
4. More money and they can cancel it, and then you have to leave before coming back in again. There are a couple of known names who like to do this. They will also have penalty clauses which mean you will loose big time thus removing any benefit on price again.
5.Alot of us agree with that completely and hopefully they will get thier finger out and do as you say, at the schools cost of course.
6. Again adds to the cost which isn't included in the headline cost which folk only find out when over there. You don't need it at home either type so add that on to the headline price.
7. They are well sussed in making sure problems go away. Anyway it will add weeks onto your time and also cost a fortune due to penalty payments.
8. Yep and you would have thought that the stupid bastards could get it right after all these years they have been doing it. But they still make a pigs arse of it for no apprant reason. But to be fair UK schools do the same but at least you can get to them to sort it out.
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I got my PPL with Euro American 2 months ago. Everyone's experience with them varies.
About the "PPL in 3 weeks" idea, that is very possible. There was a boy there when I arrived who did it in 3 weeks exactly. Of course you need to be quite good to achieve it that quick, but given the weather allows, yes it is possible.
I am not saying EASA is a good school. You might think it's bad, but trust me, there are schools far worse. And even I had a problem there as my instructor was being totally unreasonable so I had to wait 4 days without flying before I got another instructor.
With regards to accommodation, well no one forced you to stay at their houses so if you can get a hotel, get a hotel.
And yes, you'll probably pay a bit more than you planned on (partly because mostly everyone upgrades to the Piper cadet instead of the C150, and partly because you are likely to go over your dual and solo hours).
Why do you think there were students back there for the 4th time? I doubt they would've come back if they thought the same as you. Yeah it's not great. Their customer relations could do with a major overhaul. But you get what you pay for!
And Ormond Beach is a great airport to fly out of! Plenty of traffic to deal with + there's Daytona's Class C shelf layer... I thought it was great fun! Biggest thing is that the instructors all have low hours (or most of them) but I guess it's like that in most places.
Overall, if you definately know of a better school for a few extra quid, yeah go for that instead. But if you are willing to just come and concentrate on getting your PPL and just ignore all the annoying little things then I think it's still money well spent. Unless you're going there during the summer, the chances are you will have a 3 bed room to yourself like I did. If you want to rent a car and drive from a hotel that's your choice!
P.S. The US is the most awesome country to fly in IMO.
About the "PPL in 3 weeks" idea, that is very possible. There was a boy there when I arrived who did it in 3 weeks exactly. Of course you need to be quite good to achieve it that quick, but given the weather allows, yes it is possible.
I am not saying EASA is a good school. You might think it's bad, but trust me, there are schools far worse. And even I had a problem there as my instructor was being totally unreasonable so I had to wait 4 days without flying before I got another instructor.
With regards to accommodation, well no one forced you to stay at their houses so if you can get a hotel, get a hotel.
And yes, you'll probably pay a bit more than you planned on (partly because mostly everyone upgrades to the Piper cadet instead of the C150, and partly because you are likely to go over your dual and solo hours).
Why do you think there were students back there for the 4th time? I doubt they would've come back if they thought the same as you. Yeah it's not great. Their customer relations could do with a major overhaul. But you get what you pay for!
And Ormond Beach is a great airport to fly out of! Plenty of traffic to deal with + there's Daytona's Class C shelf layer... I thought it was great fun! Biggest thing is that the instructors all have low hours (or most of them) but I guess it's like that in most places.
Overall, if you definately know of a better school for a few extra quid, yeah go for that instead. But if you are willing to just come and concentrate on getting your PPL and just ignore all the annoying little things then I think it's still money well spent. Unless you're going there during the summer, the chances are you will have a 3 bed room to yourself like I did. If you want to rent a car and drive from a hotel that's your choice!
P.S. The US is the most awesome country to fly in IMO.
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Gomrath.
I sort of agree with it as well but maybe not for the same reasons.
1. The student has a very hard time of it if anything goes wrong miles away from home.
2. The consumer protection isn't what they think.
3. TSA pain in the arse
4. Visa's lock you into a single school and if they decide to be difficulty you can get royally screwed.
5. Standard of instruction is the same as EU you get very bad all the way up to very good but see point 4. You have no option but to endure bad instruction which maybe because of personality clashes.
6. Insurance both medical and renters insurance.
7. Fine print. All the JAR schools have it down to an art and if you decide to sue them they will cancel your visa and get you thrown out.
8. The whole ball ache of getting paper work sorted out if you get knocked back for license issue.
Once you step away from the sausage factorys things do get better but then you have issues getting a visa etc.
Cheapest in the US for JAR schools is OBA at 5k UKP but as anyone who has been there before will know the cost can escalate quite rapidly. You add on the renters insurance, additional days, flights, medical insurance, TSA, airport transfers there isn't much in it.
And of course you only get the headline price if you pay everything up front.
And if you do you better pack some of this
So if all goes to plan you may get a saving but alot don't and don't really enjoy the experence of learning how to fly
I sort of agree with it as well but maybe not for the same reasons.
1. The student has a very hard time of it if anything goes wrong miles away from home.
2. The consumer protection isn't what they think.
3. TSA pain in the arse
4. Visa's lock you into a single school and if they decide to be difficulty you can get royally screwed.
5. Standard of instruction is the same as EU you get very bad all the way up to very good but see point 4. You have no option but to endure bad instruction which maybe because of personality clashes.
6. Insurance both medical and renters insurance.
7. Fine print. All the JAR schools have it down to an art and if you decide to sue them they will cancel your visa and get you thrown out.
8. The whole ball ache of getting paper work sorted out if you get knocked back for license issue.
Once you step away from the sausage factorys things do get better but then you have issues getting a visa etc.
Cheapest in the US for JAR schools is OBA at 5k UKP but as anyone who has been there before will know the cost can escalate quite rapidly. You add on the renters insurance, additional days, flights, medical insurance, TSA, airport transfers there isn't much in it.
And of course you only get the headline price if you pay everything up front.
And if you do you better pack some of this
So if all goes to plan you may get a saving but alot don't and don't really enjoy the experence of learning how to fly
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Originally Posted by mad_jock
1. The student has a very hard time of it if anything goes wrong miles away from home.
2. The consumer protection isn't what they think.
3. TSA pain in the arse
4. Visa's lock you into a single school and if they decide to be difficulty you can get royally screwed.
5. Standard of instruction is the same as EU you get very bad all the way up to very good but see point 4. You have no option but to endure bad instruction which maybe because of personality clashes.
6. Insurance both medical and renters insurance.
7. Fine print. All the JAR schools have it down to an art and if you decide to sue them they will cancel your visa and get you thrown out.
8. The whole ball ache of getting paper work sorted out if you get knocked back for license issue.
Don't get me wrong I was simply commenting on the blanket statement of "stay away from the US".
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Do not fly easa! Euro american school of aviation ormond beach aviation
Yeah,
Euro American School of Aviation (EASA) is not a place I would recommend.
In fact i would say, stay in Europe it will be cheaper, safe and you'll get better training.
Training is alright (a PASS) but the whole experience is hell. Everything is fine and dandy when you first contact them to talk about stuff.
They are not stupid, they put a nice guy with nice attitude to handle initial inquiries and lure you in. Their marketing is great.
Once you pay and arrive, hell starts. Rude, patronizing, money grabbing people (Kim Aldbury ranks top).
1. PPL IN 3 WEEKS? IMPOSSIBLE.
Why? They have way more students they can manage to make the PPL in 3 weeks possible for everyone. That would mean flying at least 3 hrs a day.
That never happens. WHy? they have to try schedule all students every day. SO forget it.
OF the people i met (about 20), not one ever finished PPL in 3 weeks. 8 weeks is what took most people to finish it.
Why do people keep coming back? Well, those who come back usually dont have a choice. They take 3 weeks off work to do their ppl and then get to Euro American SCHOOL of AVIATION in florida on a tight schedule.
Obviously, the cant finish it in 3 weeks so they have to leave and come back to finish it off. They have prepaid their PPL package and get no money back. So coming back is their only chance.
I met 3 people while I was there that had to do just that.
2. What NEW MANAGEMENT?.
The management has been the same since 1994. An english guy called Adrian Thompson owns and runs the place remotely.
He does not live in the US anymore. Spends most of his days in england and apparently only returns to Florida when he has to appear in court for issues/accidents related to the business (your flight school..)
His goal, to take your money and the hell with anything else.
So you should do a search for Ormond Beach Aviation or flyoba.com to hear more about Euro American School of Aviation (EASA). They are the same people wearing different hats.
The school changed its name from ORMOND BEACH AVIATION to EUROPEAN SCHOOL OF AVIATION in 2009. So you know that those who post the reviews saying they have new management are in fact EASA/OBA employees.
Why did they change the name? They were sued (and still are sued) for accidents that happened pre-2009 so they said, lets change the name so nobody can link us with the lawsuit. But they are still the same corporation, run by the same guy (adrian thompson) who is responsible for the accidents.
3. WHAT ACCIDENTS?
Students involved in accidents got badly injured. One got burnt in 2/3 of his body, others suffered massive injuries. No casualties but fingers crossed. Reasons: issues with the aircraft.
And that does not include the accidents where students suffer no injuries at all but have issued with the planes (planes flip, front gear snaps). Witnessed 3 of those during my time in Ormond Beach. Whatever you do, stay away from the poorly maintained CESSNAs. They are death with wings.
4. MORE EXPENSIVE THAN YOU PLAN
As for money, you will spend WAY more than you planned because:
1. NO way you can finish it off in 3 weeks.
2. Which means you will need to pay more extra accommodation, food, gas,etc.
3. It is not unlikely you will have to pay for additional flying hours outside your package.
3. YOU will need a car if you want to have a life. (about USD 150 per week) There are no buses you can count on. Which means fuel- 50 bucks a weeK)
IN A NUTSHELL donotflyeasa because:
1. Money is their only concern. They run a business and run it accordingly. You are not student, just a source of income. They prefer you dont learn much so you need to fly more hours (which means more money for them)
6. Once you pay, you only deal with rude, patronizing and burnt out people (save for the lovely woman at the bar and the flight dispatchers. Those guys are cool.)
7. You will end up spending WAY more than you planned.
It will not be the pleasurable experience you would expect. So now that you have all the facts (or my opinion for that matter) make your own decision!
Any questions? ask away.
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Euro American School of Aviation (EASA) is not a place I would recommend.
In fact i would say, stay in Europe it will be cheaper, safe and you'll get better training.
Training is alright (a PASS) but the whole experience is hell. Everything is fine and dandy when you first contact them to talk about stuff.
They are not stupid, they put a nice guy with nice attitude to handle initial inquiries and lure you in. Their marketing is great.
Once you pay and arrive, hell starts. Rude, patronizing, money grabbing people (Kim Aldbury ranks top).
1. PPL IN 3 WEEKS? IMPOSSIBLE.
Why? They have way more students they can manage to make the PPL in 3 weeks possible for everyone. That would mean flying at least 3 hrs a day.
That never happens. WHy? they have to try schedule all students every day. SO forget it.
OF the people i met (about 20), not one ever finished PPL in 3 weeks. 8 weeks is what took most people to finish it.
Why do people keep coming back? Well, those who come back usually dont have a choice. They take 3 weeks off work to do their ppl and then get to Euro American SCHOOL of AVIATION in florida on a tight schedule.
Obviously, the cant finish it in 3 weeks so they have to leave and come back to finish it off. They have prepaid their PPL package and get no money back. So coming back is their only chance.
I met 3 people while I was there that had to do just that.
2. What NEW MANAGEMENT?.
The management has been the same since 1994. An english guy called Adrian Thompson owns and runs the place remotely.
He does not live in the US anymore. Spends most of his days in england and apparently only returns to Florida when he has to appear in court for issues/accidents related to the business (your flight school..)
His goal, to take your money and the hell with anything else.
So you should do a search for Ormond Beach Aviation or flyoba.com to hear more about Euro American School of Aviation (EASA). They are the same people wearing different hats.
The school changed its name from ORMOND BEACH AVIATION to EUROPEAN SCHOOL OF AVIATION in 2009. So you know that those who post the reviews saying they have new management are in fact EASA/OBA employees.
Why did they change the name? They were sued (and still are sued) for accidents that happened pre-2009 so they said, lets change the name so nobody can link us with the lawsuit. But they are still the same corporation, run by the same guy (adrian thompson) who is responsible for the accidents.
3. WHAT ACCIDENTS?
Students involved in accidents got badly injured. One got burnt in 2/3 of his body, others suffered massive injuries. No casualties but fingers crossed. Reasons: issues with the aircraft.
And that does not include the accidents where students suffer no injuries at all but have issued with the planes (planes flip, front gear snaps). Witnessed 3 of those during my time in Ormond Beach. Whatever you do, stay away from the poorly maintained CESSNAs. They are death with wings.
4. MORE EXPENSIVE THAN YOU PLAN
As for money, you will spend WAY more than you planned because:
1. NO way you can finish it off in 3 weeks.
2. Which means you will need to pay more extra accommodation, food, gas,etc.
3. It is not unlikely you will have to pay for additional flying hours outside your package.
3. YOU will need a car if you want to have a life. (about USD 150 per week) There are no buses you can count on. Which means fuel- 50 bucks a weeK)
IN A NUTSHELL donotflyeasa because:
1. Money is their only concern. They run a business and run it accordingly. You are not student, just a source of income. They prefer you dont learn much so you need to fly more hours (which means more money for them)
6. Once you pay, you only deal with rude, patronizing and burnt out people (save for the lovely woman at the bar and the flight dispatchers. Those guys are cool.)
7. You will end up spending WAY more than you planned.
It will not be the pleasurable experience you would expect. So now that you have all the facts (or my opinion for that matter) make your own decision!
Any questions? ask away.
[email protected]
In fact i would say, stay in Europe it will be cheaper, safe and you'll get better training
Don't judge all schools in the US by the experience of one.
It is simply amazing how unprepared some people show up.
Unprepared as in have not studied prior to arrival and even better; haven't put any effort in selecting schools.
If potential students would put a bit more research into selecting prior to going schools like EASA, NAC and name the rest of them would have been out of business years ago.
Having said that; in the name of all schools that are good in the USA I apologize for the experience any of you may have had with operators like the one mentioned above.
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Cheaper - I would argue the exchange rate is such that any saving is eroded; when you tot up acommodation, car hire, nights out, TSA, Interview at US embasy costs etc. it will probably be more expensive.
'Safe' and 'better training' I am not in a position to comment other than the FAA regulate the machines more than adequately and the UK CAA inspect the FTOs annually.
Allegedly.
'Safe' and 'better training' I am not in a position to comment other than the FAA regulate the machines more than adequately and the UK CAA inspect the FTOs annually.
Allegedly.
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I'm not surprised to hear all these bad things on EASA, Ive done a lot of research over the past 6 months on schools in the US and so far EFT is the only CAA approved school that has come up with overall good remarks from its students on this site. Im considering going there myself for their APP program.
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uro American School of Aviation Ormond Beach FL - AVOID!!!!!!!
This is the worst school I have seen.
In their defence however :
hey will offer to collect you from the airport for $105 each way. You can hire a car for a whole week with that amount.
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Seems like it's gone downhill in the last few years. I did my PPL there around 6 years ago - had an excellent instructor (same guy for the whole duration who got a biz jet job the week I left), great aircraft availability on the C152s they had, and was with a great bunch of fellow students who I still (although sproadically) keep in touch with.
Back then, if you had the right attitude, and AT didn't take a dislike to you - you were fine.
I didn't pay until I got there as I wanted to check the place out, and accepted the small percentage uplift for the privilege. Put 5 weeks aside and did it in 4 without too much pressure, including the exams (although I did hit the books a month in advance of going). Accomo was fine - I booked an individual room and got exactly what it said on the tin.
I even got some money back from them as I'd bought 10 hours and only used 5 - they didn't have a problem with it (and in turn I vacated the house a few hours early to help them out on my last day). All in all a nice bunch.
Lunches at the golf club, bought a bike from Walmart and sold it on when I left, and even had a few days at the end for XCs for lunch and a visit to Nasa with a hire car.
All in all, it was a great experience, and substantially cheaper at the time than if I'd done it at home (with Aberdeen being, and still is, extortionate) - and at home, I'd never have got the continuity of training with work/family/wx etc. Then got home and got embroiled in the FAS-going-bust nonsense with endless check-outs (with different instructors who all wanted a turn flying with me before they signed me off - bit cheeky) and other issues which drove me bonkers compared to the US regime and cost me about a 1/5th of what I'd just spent for nothing.
So - horses for courses. I had a great time, but that was years ago, and was with a great bunch of students. There were a few even then who rocked up, wanted to only fly twice a week, complained about everything rather than accept their own limitations or lack of commitment, and left early.
Can't speak for it now, but training in the US shouldn't be written off entirely - flying over there is a dream compared with Eurocrap land.
As everyone says - do your research, get reviews, go prepared, and never pay up front (accepting you might pay a little more for the privilege).
Back then, if you had the right attitude, and AT didn't take a dislike to you - you were fine.
I didn't pay until I got there as I wanted to check the place out, and accepted the small percentage uplift for the privilege. Put 5 weeks aside and did it in 4 without too much pressure, including the exams (although I did hit the books a month in advance of going). Accomo was fine - I booked an individual room and got exactly what it said on the tin.
I even got some money back from them as I'd bought 10 hours and only used 5 - they didn't have a problem with it (and in turn I vacated the house a few hours early to help them out on my last day). All in all a nice bunch.
Lunches at the golf club, bought a bike from Walmart and sold it on when I left, and even had a few days at the end for XCs for lunch and a visit to Nasa with a hire car.
All in all, it was a great experience, and substantially cheaper at the time than if I'd done it at home (with Aberdeen being, and still is, extortionate) - and at home, I'd never have got the continuity of training with work/family/wx etc. Then got home and got embroiled in the FAS-going-bust nonsense with endless check-outs (with different instructors who all wanted a turn flying with me before they signed me off - bit cheeky) and other issues which drove me bonkers compared to the US regime and cost me about a 1/5th of what I'd just spent for nothing.
So - horses for courses. I had a great time, but that was years ago, and was with a great bunch of students. There were a few even then who rocked up, wanted to only fly twice a week, complained about everything rather than accept their own limitations or lack of commitment, and left early.
Can't speak for it now, but training in the US shouldn't be written off entirely - flying over there is a dream compared with Eurocrap land.
As everyone says - do your research, get reviews, go prepared, and never pay up front (accepting you might pay a little more for the privilege).
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Slopey it was like that 10 years ago and if you were unlucky you could see both faces of the school while you were there. All it took was something to piss AT off and all hell would let loose. He would start wandering around the school wearing his gun and abusing customers. I had two weeks of calm and getting through things and the last week was murder. Thankfully I had the bulk of it done so they couldn't screw me over unlike some of the others that turned up that week. If I hadn't seen the change I would be on pprune to this day sticking up for them.
The instructor bit is well and truely a luck of the draw thing. I had a CFII good un but then towards the end of the three weeks ended up with some ******** from Riddle who thought you could teach PPL by demonstrating spinning from 3000ft every lesson.
From my experence and postings on pprune nothing has changed. Some students have a good time and enjoy themselves Some students its hell on earth. As for the ratio between the two I don't have a clue when I was there the majority didn't have a good time that last week. 15 of us sitting upstairs listening to AT shouting, swearing and banging on the wall at whoever was next in the Q for the RT test. The pass seemed to be being able to put up with being yelled at until you eventually got cleared to land. I didn't like to tell him it was meant to be a FISO airport we were going to so technically they couldn't clear us for anything.
My instruction turned out to be not very good. When I went on to do a CPL and FI course I discovered large chunks of the syllabus hadn't been covered in relation to navigation, diversions and emergency exercises. And the stalling was taught by hanging in the stall using the rudder to haul the wings up when they dropped. Which isn't the way to do it.
The instructor bit is well and truely a luck of the draw thing. I had a CFII good un but then towards the end of the three weeks ended up with some ******** from Riddle who thought you could teach PPL by demonstrating spinning from 3000ft every lesson.
From my experence and postings on pprune nothing has changed. Some students have a good time and enjoy themselves Some students its hell on earth. As for the ratio between the two I don't have a clue when I was there the majority didn't have a good time that last week. 15 of us sitting upstairs listening to AT shouting, swearing and banging on the wall at whoever was next in the Q for the RT test. The pass seemed to be being able to put up with being yelled at until you eventually got cleared to land. I didn't like to tell him it was meant to be a FISO airport we were going to so technically they couldn't clear us for anything.
My instruction turned out to be not very good. When I went on to do a CPL and FI course I discovered large chunks of the syllabus hadn't been covered in relation to navigation, diversions and emergency exercises. And the stalling was taught by hanging in the stall using the rudder to haul the wings up when they dropped. Which isn't the way to do it.
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Oh dear Pilot786..
Sorry to be harsh buddy but there has been a wealth of (pretty negative) information about OBA on tnis 'site for a very,very long time.
Although you may not receive much sympathy, you will surely cause many readers to shake their heads in disbelief.
10 or 15 minutes simple research would have saved you disappointment, inconvenience, stress and cash. Oh dear. Sorry.
Although you may not receive much sympathy, you will surely cause many readers to shake their heads in disbelief.
10 or 15 minutes simple research would have saved you disappointment, inconvenience, stress and cash. Oh dear. Sorry.
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FIC Courses at EASA
Been following the replies on this topic. I wonder if any prospective client has spotted that this company is still advertising FIC courses. To the best of my knowledge, it does not have any CAA approved instructors to undertake this advanced course.
Can anyone confirm?
Can anyone confirm?