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Old 16th Nov 2011, 20:10   #21 (permalink)


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Type Rating + ATP

Yes, if you have ATP written exam complete and meet the part 61 requirements for the ATP, the practical test results in an ATP certificate with the A-320 Type Rating - there is no difference in the check since they both come from the ATP and Type Rating Practical Test Standard (PTS).

HPA has good reputation but was allegedly taking shortcuts on type rating checkride - FAA intervened but not sure what happened in the end on that one.
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Old 17th Nov 2011, 04:14   #22 (permalink)


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Got mine at Cae and was not easy.5 week,20 sessions.session=4h sim.
Much better than panam.pic and sic training mean I could buy my 320 and fly my plane tomorrow.
In USA training is for sic only. This is why they're is so much difference i the price.

Never found job after this painful training.
Nobody want 320 driver without hours on type.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 12:03   #23 (permalink)
 
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Hi all
I did the type in pan am with self study before hand and i can tell you that the traning is exellent. As usually there is always good instructor and bad ones. As the course progressed we changed 4 ground instructors but that does not mater because you are supposed to have study before hand. And anyway everything is done through a CBT.
Then comes the sim. Usualy the sim instructor is the same unless something happend. The sim itself is good and the instructor that we had was good as well.
I had a few problems understanding the way the Bus worked but after 2 session i got it and everithing whent fine thereafter.
The examiner was very strict and we whent throught everything in 3 hours.
15 days later my friends i got hired in europe with a Validation for a charter company.
Now you want to spend 50000 euro, be my gess.
I spent 7500 and got a job.
You have to know something about typeratings. You will never learn everithing you need on the type. The type help you get a job. Once you get the job then then you strart understanding everything and everything fits together.
Ho one more thing on the licence it just says A320 , it does not say Pan Am , aeroservice and so on..."......

With that be safe and stop biching
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 12:35   #24 (permalink)


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what?

"Gentleman" where did you get that statement that nobody hires without time on type? And SIC type only in the US? What are you talking about? My type rating is certainly a PIC type and I am currently in Asia working for an airline with no previous jet or turbine experience. Another friend of mine also got an A320 job in Japan with the same experience level. It's not easy but it can be done. Get your facts straight before you go discouraging people....
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Old 9th Aug 2012, 05:06   #25 (permalink)
 
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Simulator practice after TR

Suppose you are a part-time CFI and also work at Ramp for an airline (Delta, for example); is there any chance to get permission from the Sim dept to use a simulator after you buy a type rating anywhere?
I mean, practice in a simulator when it is not being busy, like 3am.
If the airline approve, it would be free or at least charge the employee 1/3 for the sim hour price?

Thanks a lot.
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Old 12th Aug 2012, 02:35   #26 (permalink)
 
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Jamaicapilot, what minimum time is required to get a job with these companies with no jet or turbine time. Just a type rating and no time on type. thanks
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 03:26   #27 (permalink)


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Don't go there. Interruption between sessions is 1-2 weeks. Schedule department is crap!!! They don't care about you. I spent there 2 month instead of 21 days. Instructors teach you only common items before sim, and after that ask for extra training (1140$-2 hours). Main goal of Pan Am is additional session, minimum 2-3 independent of you successes.
Check ride in very awful circumstances, get you nervous!!! Only 50% pass check ride once. Second one is 3000$
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