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Old 13th Jul 2012, 19:02   #101 (permalink)
 
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As Paul said am also worried about fte helping you with interviews and finding a job, really want to join fte but this is the one thing putting me, if they improved and got better reviews on this one thing I would certainly join fte straight away

Someone needs to reassure me with this
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Old 14th Jul 2012, 16:41   #102 (permalink)
 
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I don't think that FTE Jerez would order 8 new Diamond DA42 aircraft and 2 Diamond simulators 2 FNPT2 DA42 ! which definitely is a sign of things going better
United just ordered 150 737s, do you think they have enough pilots to fly them already?

Just because they've ordered new aircraft (much needed new aircraft), it doesn't mean they have the required instructors.
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Old 14th Jul 2012, 20:16   #103 (permalink)
 
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Smoke and mirrors

A few years back, I enjoyed a one day assessment with thomas co?k and FTE Jerez. I was absolutely promised that after the assessment I would be out in one of three piles. You're in on the TCX scheme, you're in, but not under the scheme, or you're not up to being a pilot. Well none happened. The smoking dragon that promised all of the above started her speech by saying that there were no smoke and mirrors. Which meant there was. So, for me fte have proven to be liars. But to be fair, I'd rather not be hanging my future on TCX as they won't be around in 18 months time. So go into FTE Jerez! Enjoy!
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Old 15th Jul 2012, 10:48   #104 (permalink)
 
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I went to FTE a while back to tour the school to see what's what. I believe before they had the usual CPL/MEIR +MCC for around £85,000. Now with this "new" course, the First Officer course, they are giving you all above with JOC and interview/CV prep for around £86,000. Am I missing something here?
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Old 15th Jul 2012, 11:01   #105 (permalink)
 
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No flight school, or airline course for that matter, will guarentee you a job. Some FTOs offer a sort of work experience scheme for 6 to 8 months with a partner carrier. Those carriers only use them due to cheap labour and partially offset TR costs. If you are lucky, you might be kept on.

If you were expecting to be placed, found a job, with a UK airline you can expect a long wait. Schools can't create jobs or predict the future. Neither can airlines. China and the ME are looking, and will be increasingly so. Hopefully they will start to get involved in FTOs in Europe when they realise a need for well trained ab-initio pilots.

Timing is everything in this game sadly. I had a very long wait after finishing in 1992. But I stuck at it, and got a job. All came good in 1996 when I landed a job with one of the big boys of the time! So there you go. No school even offered to help with a CV then ( not in real terms).
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Old 15th Jul 2012, 12:16   #106 (permalink)
 
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The amount of utter nonsense on this forum is astounding. Everyone coming chiming in with a load of made up stuff claiming it as fact.
The poster above me claims that some airlines will take you from a flight school on a 6-8 month training deal, but none will give you a job?
How do you explain the guys from CTC who got a permanent job with Qatar? Edit: Thought I better explain that I am well aware that this is not even a guarantee, but still it's not a work experience deal.
It's all about luck at that time you come out of training as long as you put in the hard work. Anything can happen, but don't come in here saying there are definitely no jobs.

If I was someone reading this forum, looking for advice I really wouldn't bother taking most of it. Everyone is here to talk you out of doing what you want to do.

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Old 15th Jul 2012, 12:59   #107 (permalink)
 
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I agree with a good deal of what preston pilot has to say. If this is your dream you should go for it and dont be talked out of it.

However i do strongly believe the FTOs should be trying harder to help their students and not just to dismiss them as soon as their 100,000 euro has been cleared.FTE seem very good at this.

However i am aware of the market and that jobs are scarce so it is vital to take your chance should one arise.
Most vital is to get very good first time pass marks and come out of whatever FTO with the best possible C.V.
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 09:33   #108 (permalink)
 
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FTE cant be doing so bad if they just announced the BA City Flyer Mentored Scheme.
Maybe this is a sign that the industry is going back up?
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Old 19th Jul 2012, 17:49   #109 (permalink)
 
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FTE has 3 people working full time to find jobs for their graduates....move yourself from the sofa, go to FTE, talk to any student there, walk around and see it for yourself.
Ah and i forgot...please note that when you go to the campus you can really talk to any students or person you like, unlike some other ftos where only "selected students" are allowed to talk to you
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 20:14   #110 (permalink)
 
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fte travel

hey all. are there any presant or past students of FTE from Ireland??

Just trying to arrange travel plans to head over and finding flight times and frequency isnt the best.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 18:11   #111 (permalink)
 
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or even any UK students that didnt fly direct to jerez. is there a decent train or bus service from Gibraltar or Malaga??

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 19:52   #112 (permalink)
 
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paulslats: you can probably get a train from Málaga to Jerez although it will take a while and you will have to change, probably in Sevilla. Renfe should be able to tell you the train times, with any luck there will hopefully be an AVE (a fast Spanish train)
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 20:23   #113 (permalink)
 
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thanks for the help average punter. the flight out of jerez is nt until after 9pm so i would miss all connecting flights to Ireland from Stansted and have to stay overnight in london.no biggy, just thought irish people past or present at FTE might of had an easier option.

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 20:39   #114 (permalink)
 
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Dublin-Seville. Seville train passes Jerez Airport. Easy!
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 18:53   #115 (permalink)
 
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Any news from FTE, how are present students geting on??
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Old 10th Aug 2012, 19:13   #116 (permalink)
 
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Jerez Graduates

I believe that the latest six Flybe MPL students have just about finished their training at FTE, and will be starting their Type Rating training at Exeter in October.
At the same time, six students from the Course ahead completed their training, and will soon be heading off to various airlines...

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Old 10th Aug 2012, 20:08   #117 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone know if any self sponsored students are gaining employment or getting the relevant help from FTE!!
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Old 11th Aug 2012, 16:02   #118 (permalink)
 
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like them on facebook they post all the information regarding self-sponsored students.

Twice a month someone is getting a job. Some with Qatar(non-cadet), Cathay Pacific something else... but about 1/3 to a half of them Ryanair (same as OAA though)
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Old 12th Aug 2012, 12:29   #119 (permalink)
 
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hey guys,

anyone used any of the pilapt prep on the internet before doing their assessment at FTE?? all and any help would be greatly appreciated.and can any1 remember which tests they use for their pilapt, i know different schools use different tests.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 19:35   #120 (permalink)
 
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Anyone here starting on the 14th September Course?

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