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Old 12th Sep 2012, 17:18   #421 (permalink)
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Can anyone recommend any good flight schools which provide modular training? And also, would it be better to do modular abroad or in the UK?
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Old 13th Sep 2012, 11:16   #422 (permalink)
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Thank you guys, It is very comforting to read about other who find themselves in the same situation, and the information have been very appriciated. I will work to save up money for the PPL, while reading the theory, and then start the whole thing. Iam very excited! The first thing I will do is a medical check

Sorry i forgot to ask if you guys think that beeing away from the academic
world for that long, will effect my possibilities to get through the test's that airlines, if i understod it correctly, requires you to pass in order to even think about getting hired? What i mean is that My math skills, not to talk about my physics skills probably is going to be a bit rusty after working day and night in order to finance the modular CPL, or is it mainly flying skills that are tested combined with IQ test?

Best Regards!

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Old 18th Sep 2012, 15:24   #423 (permalink)
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my experience

I left school in 08 and wanted to go Int however; at the time I was naive and stupid and believed Cabair would get me a job at the end. Lucikly we didnt have 70k to do it so I decided to spend the next 2years working and manged to save best part of 15k alongside getting a PPL and some hours.

During that time my desire to do this all grew and through doing various jobs I realised this is what I really want to do and I would never know where the dream would go unless I gave it a shot. Through looking up at planes on my lunchbreak wishing I was up there is the fuel for the fire to push you through all the turmoil and trouble that you will experience during flight training and that first job.

However last year I finished my job and started the road from PPL to Fatpl Armed with my cash and a loan and family help.

Now about to start my MCC do i regreat going modular? No Would I change it? No, because I have met some fantastic people along the way and only have a 13k loan at the end of all this rather than 80k. So I can continue my life and aspiration to become a pilot in a sustainable manner.

For me 80k and the next ten years of my life paying it off is too much of a risk to take. As there are fine lines between dreams/nightmares.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 16:06   #424 (permalink)
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@ Jugs

Exactly the same conclusions I have come to, though you are further down the line than me!

Now the hard work begins of actually finding that elusive first job...best of luck!
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 21:58   #425 (permalink)

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Waypoint programme

Im considering taking the modular route; first gain my PPL, onto Oxford's Waypoint programme and worked it out to be around 47k, then there is the hour building which is estimated to be around another 14 - 15k, this course with oxford includes; ATPL (A) theory, MEP, IR , CPL, and JOC if needed.

What do some of you gents think about this option?
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Old 9th Oct 2012, 13:47   #426 (permalink)
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Im considering taking the modular route; first gain my PPL, onto Oxford's Waypoint programme and worked it out to be around 47k,
just to confirm.. 47k for a ppl ????
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Old 10th Oct 2012, 18:58   #427 (permalink)
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I suppose is 47k for complete modular ATPL(A) course.

One question: In a modular way, the path should be PPL + ATPL theory + CPL&MEP + IR + MCC, am I right?

The IR can be SEP based, or must be MEP as well? I am asking this since I could not really find in JAR-FCL-1 a clear requirement on ME-IR.

Please advise.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 15th Oct 2012, 09:57   #428 (permalink)
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One question: In a modular way, the path should be PPL + ATPL theory + CPL&MEP + IR + MCC, am I right?

The IR can be SEP based, or must be MEP as well? I am asking this since I could not really find in JAR-FCL-1 a clear requirement on ME-IR.

If you want to fly for an airline you need the MEIR. Just having a CPL and ME and single engine IR would not be sufficient.

I think it is possible to do a single engine IR and then upgrade this to an MEIR, but that would cost more than just getting the MEIR to begin with.
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Old 16th Oct 2012, 19:03   #429 (permalink)
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did you know any cheap flight school for IR/MEP with good background in europe?
i was looking some schools and the cost is approximate 15k euro
i'f got the jaa cpl+atp theory and i need to finish the training but until the time i don't have so many k.
Thank you
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 21:16   #430 (permalink)
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Sounds great

I intend to go that path myself.....Im working a normal job and have 3 kids + the missus and a motorbike so I will be getting a loan and saving then another loan + the money I have saved etc.

Luckily a family friend has a King Air which I will be Co-Pilot from Ireland to France a few times a year.

Seems to be the best and cheapest route...

Thanks for sharing and best of luck..safe flying
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Old 22nd Oct 2012, 21:19   #431 (permalink)
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If you make it through all the training modularly you have the determination to succeed in life as you will find it can get very frustrating at times.

All I can advise is finish training with the least possible debt you can.

Do not believe integrated is the only way to get a job.

Do not start unless you can find a type rating or are prepared to take a longer route perhaps 2-3 years.

Do not leave long gaps in your training. If seen this happen and people run out of money on a few occasions.

Do your CPL IR at one school.

If you can go to America to hour build do it, you will have a great time and be exposed to a lot more than here in the UK.

Make sure you enjoy your training, it's expensive and you won't do it again.

When you get your CPL/IR you hardly know anything in the scheme of things. So no need for the big time attitude.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 16:07   #432 (permalink)
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Still not sure (JAR FCL)

Hello everyone,
Tomorrow I need to decide wether I go integrated or modular, this is the situation:
I have done a PPL at the same flight school
I now have 100hrs of which 50+ PIC Xcountry
I am now doing ATPL theory and estimate exams in 6 months
Option 1:
Integrated ATPL
195hrs - 40hrs = 165hrs , of which 46hrs VFR(also instruction )

Option 2:
Modular IR + Modular ME ( 63 hrs in my FTO)
+ Timebuilding at flying club( enough so I can obtain my CPL)
+Modular CPL (15hrs)

What should I choose? help please..
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 20:50   #433 (permalink)
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Why start an integrated course if you have 100hrs already?!
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 21:27   #434 (permalink)
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if you have a ppl with 100 hours it is ridiculous to start over at an integrated course. Why do you even ask? Did you win the loterry?
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 13:22   #435 (permalink)

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hi there after all of that outlay are you currently got a job??
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 16:36   #436 (permalink)
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This topic is one of the most argued in this field. " Modular vs Integrated"
Well, what I always ask is: If both routes take you to the same exact license, and can be accomplished in the same exact interval of time ( 12-14 months- full time), why is it that airlines in Europe prefer the cadets that have gone through the integrated route ??
does it really affect your employment?
If one is able to cover the costs of the integrated training at CTC,OAA, AFT, FTE... do you advise them to go through this route? or save money and go through the modular route? what are the real things that differ between the 2?
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 16:45   #437 (permalink)
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Since you are from Lebanon, you maybe should look at Middle East Airline's cadet program. As you will see, they are affiliated with FTE Jerez's integrated program.
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 17:40   #438 (permalink)
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Yup that's correct, they have just launched a new selection phase 1 month ago, but I am currently studying my last year of school, that means I cannot apply yet... they have a minimum requirement of at least 1 year of university...
I will keep looking forward to apply to their program next year, but will continue on searching for other flight schools as well, no one knows what will happen !
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 22:07   #439 (permalink)
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Okay one thing is clear: modular can be done cheaper than integrated. But when I say that there is an integrated flight training school in the Balkans and South-East Europe, where the price is in the near of 60k.. What about that?

With the schools I mentioned:
- Baltic Aviation Academy
- Egnatia Aviation Academy

I've spoken to students from these schools and the students from BAA were more positive than the students from EAA.

What about this idea?
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Old 17th Jan 2013, 23:18   #440 (permalink)
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where to take atpl in uk?

hello guys, want to take atpl and need your help, dont want to pay 80,000 for ofxord or ctc, cause basically i'm paying for the name and brand, but there's another question if i dont study in oxford or cts, i will never work for BA, jetstar, etc.? cause they only apply people from oxford or cts, what would you recommend? thanks
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