Oxford Aviation Academy. What does everyne think of it?
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If you go uni, theres always the possibility you'll forget about your dream. Thats what kinda happened to me when i joined the army.
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Locarno1 I can understand that you want to choose the best school for training, whether to go Integrated or Modular and this is an obviously a personal choice and one only you can make. It is great that you have the financial backing of your parents, hell I needed their help for security and would never have been able to afford to do all this training if it wasn't for them. Take everything obviously on here with the pinch of salt, don't listen to that is said and make your own decision.
I myself decided to go Integrated, starting in 2007 with Oxford, at the time, industry ok, continual expansion, optimistic. Count the months and you will see when I graduated! The dark times we are in now. Remember as well, you are only sixteen and you will change a hell of a lot. I have seen some guys coming fresh out of big schools at a young age with no grip on reality whatsoever. I have also seen many mature 20 year olds who know the score.
I personally didn't go to uni, I don't regret it in any way, maybe missed out on the social side but hey, who cares! The degree Oxford offers is not of great relevance to the course and to my experience has been poorly managed! Maybe that has all changed.............
OAA - very much enjoyed the experience, good instruction in both the states and during the IR and MCC/JOC. Loved the Seneca (give a s**t its not a glass cockpit) -'oh my god I have to change the RPM myself'- Had one of the best five months in Phoenix (flying, women, pool, sun, Vegas, what else do you want), Good groundschool instruction! I finshed on time and had no real problems along the way so I really have nothing bad to say about it. I am glad that I got into the game at a later age too as I feel more experienced in a demanding industry.
There is no point in arguing over the ins and outs of schools, its a risk but go take it! I'm Ģ110000 in the red now due to RYR Type Rating but its good man
Go to Uni if you like, add another 15-20K ontop of OAA, which is now a cool 71000. Maybe you will get BA? Maybe you will get RYR, who knows what the total outcome will be? You still have a few years to decide and as we know this industry changes quickly so don't stress too much.
Get your name of here for one
Eye on the prize
Be a cool dude
I myself decided to go Integrated, starting in 2007 with Oxford, at the time, industry ok, continual expansion, optimistic. Count the months and you will see when I graduated! The dark times we are in now. Remember as well, you are only sixteen and you will change a hell of a lot. I have seen some guys coming fresh out of big schools at a young age with no grip on reality whatsoever. I have also seen many mature 20 year olds who know the score.
I personally didn't go to uni, I don't regret it in any way, maybe missed out on the social side but hey, who cares! The degree Oxford offers is not of great relevance to the course and to my experience has been poorly managed! Maybe that has all changed.............
OAA - very much enjoyed the experience, good instruction in both the states and during the IR and MCC/JOC. Loved the Seneca (give a s**t its not a glass cockpit) -'oh my god I have to change the RPM myself'- Had one of the best five months in Phoenix (flying, women, pool, sun, Vegas, what else do you want), Good groundschool instruction! I finshed on time and had no real problems along the way so I really have nothing bad to say about it. I am glad that I got into the game at a later age too as I feel more experienced in a demanding industry.
There is no point in arguing over the ins and outs of schools, its a risk but go take it! I'm Ģ110000 in the red now due to RYR Type Rating but its good man
Go to Uni if you like, add another 15-20K ontop of OAA, which is now a cool 71000. Maybe you will get BA? Maybe you will get RYR, who knows what the total outcome will be? You still have a few years to decide and as we know this industry changes quickly so don't stress too much.
Get your name of here for one
Eye on the prize
Be a cool dude
I'm Ģ110000 in the red now due to RYR Type Rating but its good man
It might, subject to an Engineers inspection, buy you 2 Stampe biplanes
It could by you a 2 bedroom semi detached house in Birmingham
It may, depending on spec, buy you a 30' yacht.
It will buy you a "frozen" ATPL, 737 type rating, and a job with Ryanair. Possibly.
I'm not saying not to do it (although I probably wouldnt at the moment if I were you); I'm just saying Ģ110,000 is not just a number. It's an awful lot of money.
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Locarno1,
I am not writing this from any level of understanding and before you read what I have written I want to say that what is expressed is my opinion of what has been discussed in this thread.
Firstly, I think that you have offended allot of people by mentioning that the bank of mummy and daddy will finance you through to fATPL. There are pilots on here with huge loans who did their qualifications with no sort of banking from parents/family and I think that these people (rightly) don't like seeing someone having it so easy. I'm 13 and want to get started on my PPL at 14, but I'm having to work hard at home (cooking, cleaning and trying very very hard at school) to even start to get my parents to think about helping me through this license. I know full well that anything like this is a financial strain on them and I have made it clear that I will think no less of them if they decide not to pay me through the PPL. This was the reason I too was offended by your post- perhaps I am jealous but I hate seeing people flash the cash with such naivety. (If I'm given Ģ10 to go shopping, I buy the cheapest brands and save what I can to put towards flying- seeing people's parents write out cheques with no thought is hurtful to say the least).
Furthermore, allot of the supposed negativity construed by other posters in this thread is probably just trying to get you thinking straight. These people did it the good old way (saving and modular) and are the better (in my opinion) for it. I'm not nearly arrogant enough to say as fact to have any level of understanding as to why what was said was but I believe that these guys are out to help you. I think they do not want to see another newbie signed off to the line in heavy debt. Nor, I belive, do they want your parents Ģ100k+ poorer for funding their son through a course that could be done much cheaper.
Also, I think allot of people were upset and hurt by how easy you thought it is to become a pilot. I'm probably no better than you but remember there are people unemployed and financially scarred from their aviation experiences. Try and show consideration for these people in your posts and I think you'll find that the responses come much politer. (look at my thread 'PPL Training as a Teenager' in the private flying forum)
Locarno1 try the EPST online aptitude test too.
Before I sign off, I do not want anybody thinking I am looking down at Locarno1 or any other posters. I am no better than Locarno1 at dreaming but I thank every poster in this thread for writing what they did as all of it (except accusing him of being a troll-just childish surely) was intended to help (if a little backhandedly in some cases) in some way.
I am not writing this from any level of understanding and before you read what I have written I want to say that what is expressed is my opinion of what has been discussed in this thread.
Firstly, I think that you have offended allot of people by mentioning that the bank of mummy and daddy will finance you through to fATPL. There are pilots on here with huge loans who did their qualifications with no sort of banking from parents/family and I think that these people (rightly) don't like seeing someone having it so easy. I'm 13 and want to get started on my PPL at 14, but I'm having to work hard at home (cooking, cleaning and trying very very hard at school) to even start to get my parents to think about helping me through this license. I know full well that anything like this is a financial strain on them and I have made it clear that I will think no less of them if they decide not to pay me through the PPL. This was the reason I too was offended by your post- perhaps I am jealous but I hate seeing people flash the cash with such naivety. (If I'm given Ģ10 to go shopping, I buy the cheapest brands and save what I can to put towards flying- seeing people's parents write out cheques with no thought is hurtful to say the least).
Furthermore, allot of the supposed negativity construed by other posters in this thread is probably just trying to get you thinking straight. These people did it the good old way (saving and modular) and are the better (in my opinion) for it. I'm not nearly arrogant enough to say as fact to have any level of understanding as to why what was said was but I believe that these guys are out to help you. I think they do not want to see another newbie signed off to the line in heavy debt. Nor, I belive, do they want your parents Ģ100k+ poorer for funding their son through a course that could be done much cheaper.
Also, I think allot of people were upset and hurt by how easy you thought it is to become a pilot. I'm probably no better than you but remember there are people unemployed and financially scarred from their aviation experiences. Try and show consideration for these people in your posts and I think you'll find that the responses come much politer. (look at my thread 'PPL Training as a Teenager' in the private flying forum)
Locarno1 try the EPST online aptitude test too.
Before I sign off, I do not want anybody thinking I am looking down at Locarno1 or any other posters. I am no better than Locarno1 at dreaming but I thank every poster in this thread for writing what they did as all of it (except accusing him of being a troll-just childish surely) was intended to help (if a little backhandedly in some cases) in some way.
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Captain Sunshine,
Your post shows a lot of maturity and I find myself wondering if you are really 13. I'm not calling a troll alert mind you, but with the level of maturity and assertiveness you've just shown, I think you'll be welcome on a multi-crew flight deck once you get the required bits of paper. Good luck and Godspeed with your training.
Your post shows a lot of maturity and I find myself wondering if you are really 13. I'm not calling a troll alert mind you, but with the level of maturity and assertiveness you've just shown, I think you'll be welcome on a multi-crew flight deck once you get the required bits of paper. Good luck and Godspeed with your training.
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Do the bank of mummy and daddy a favour.
Join the RAF, by the sounds of it you'll fit right in. If you have the brain power you can work on some beautiful fast jets, if not choppers or Hercules for a few years and then jump ship to the airlines. You'll save your parents the best part of 100,000ukp, get the best training and get to see a lot of the world. You might have to bomb parts of it but for a 100k there isn't much I won't do!!!!!
I have just finished modular, CAA have my paperwork as we speak, crap timing but then thats life. My little blue licence cost me 35k, with 250+ hours total time (passed CPL/IR minimum times), if you go to OAA that EXACT same licence will cost you 80K minimum.
In my groundschool class of 5 guys only little old me is not working on a 737!
Join the RAF, by the sounds of it you'll fit right in. If you have the brain power you can work on some beautiful fast jets, if not choppers or Hercules for a few years and then jump ship to the airlines. You'll save your parents the best part of 100,000ukp, get the best training and get to see a lot of the world. You might have to bomb parts of it but for a 100k there isn't much I won't do!!!!!
I have just finished modular, CAA have my paperwork as we speak, crap timing but then thats life. My little blue licence cost me 35k, with 250+ hours total time (passed CPL/IR minimum times), if you go to OAA that EXACT same licence will cost you 80K minimum.
In my groundschool class of 5 guys only little old me is not working on a 737!
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Don't you just love the way the figures get distorted to try to make the point that you pay more for integrated training!! All the Mod guys vastly underestimating their costs and forgetting the include the price of an MCC and JOC, whilst quoting between Ģ80-100k for Oxford...actual price Ģ66000 plus Ģ5000 for tests and CAA fees equals Ģ71000.
There is also a cost benefit in getting through the training quickly and earning a salary sooner (granted, this doesn't apply right now with the dearth of jobs currently available).
There is also a cost benefit in getting through the training quickly and earning a salary sooner (granted, this doesn't apply right now with the dearth of jobs currently available).
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I'll see your Ģ37k and raise you Ģ14k ... in Canada - not JAA but not that that will do you any good in the near future anyway.
PPL: $8000
PPL after tax credit and training deduction: $6160
Hour building, night, groundschool & commercial: $20,000
After tax credit and training deduction: $17,700
Multi-IFR: Effectively paid by the government after some lucky timing and the usual tax deductions.
Grand total in CAD: $23860
Grand total in UK pounds: Ģ14,000
PPL: $8000
PPL after tax credit and training deduction: $6160
Hour building, night, groundschool & commercial: $20,000
After tax credit and training deduction: $17,700
Multi-IFR: Effectively paid by the government after some lucky timing and the usual tax deductions.
Grand total in CAD: $23860
Grand total in UK pounds: Ģ14,000
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Well if going straight to an aviation academy isn't any good where would you go to get both a CPL and a University degree. For me, money isn't an issue, so right now I'm going into airline management at University of New South Wales in Australia then going to OAA.
Any other suggestions?
Any other suggestions?
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It sure isnīt fabbe92 that started this topic! I was just like this guy 6 months ago, even worze! But I have changed idea completley now. Completing my PPL now and itīs fantastic. Later on I will enroll in a good modular school wich has good quality for the money, in every aspect.
Look at OAA for example, planes that arenīt up to industry standard and I have heard that they have had problems with schedules and different questions regardig money and prices for flight training. I have understood that they have the biggest name and the best reputation in the industry. But you must look at the quality of the training. That some guys getīs jobs with BA isnīt important, the important thing is that you get good quality and support and that you become a good pilot.
Look at OAA for example, planes that arenīt up to industry standard and I have heard that they have had problems with schedules and different questions regardig money and prices for flight training. I have understood that they have the biggest name and the best reputation in the industry. But you must look at the quality of the training. That some guys getīs jobs with BA isnīt important, the important thing is that you get good quality and support and that you become a good pilot.
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why to go to USA/Canada
I really don't see lots of benefits of going to USA/Canada. Well, better climate. But not really prices.
In Europe there are economical possibilities to get trained and become the ATPL.
From 0 to PPL - 6000Eur and from PPL to ATPL (200hrs, MEP, CPL, IR) - 21000Eur.
By the way, Avioservice (Latvian flight school), whose prices I mention they work with OAA and students get the OAA papers.
If I can share my personal experience about OAA - they do a really good job. Not a bad choice at all.
Good luck!
In Europe there are economical possibilities to get trained and become the ATPL.
From 0 to PPL - 6000Eur and from PPL to ATPL (200hrs, MEP, CPL, IR) - 21000Eur.
By the way, Avioservice (Latvian flight school), whose prices I mention they work with OAA and students get the OAA papers.
If I can share my personal experience about OAA - they do a really good job. Not a bad choice at all.
Good luck!
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Hi, I'm considering going to OAA next yr and I would like to know how difficult is it getting into the school, and what qualifications did you have when you started your ATPL . And what are the job prospects after
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I agree with Geebs, everyone I have spoken to fresh out of uni has said it was the best few years they've ever had. They've made friends for life and created new opportunites for themselves. I'm definitely going to university and perhaps pursue the pilot dream a few years down the road as a career change.
Jovan, A levels or the equivelent are a must! May I suggest you use your initiative and search through these threads to find the answers to your questions because they have been covered many a time. At this time and the near future employment prospects are not good!
Jovan, A levels or the equivelent are a must! May I suggest you use your initiative and search through these threads to find the answers to your questions because they have been covered many a time. At this time and the near future employment prospects are not good!
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Oxford University has nothing to do with OAA.
Only similarity is the name.
Only similarity is the name.
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Would like more recent updates on job prospects and quality of training from OAA, as now it is owned by CAE and the aviation sector is expanding, creating more jobs. Anyone out there a recent graduate with experience in job hunting?
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Dear scott5988
Sorry for PM you, but I noticed that you did you training at BCFT. What do you think about them, did you find a job afterwards? would you recommend them over other school??
regards
GPiper
Sorry for PM you, but I noticed that you did you training at BCFT. What do you think about them, did you find a job afterwards? would you recommend them over other school??
regards
GPiper
