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Old 31st July 2008, 23:04   #21 (permalink)
 
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Preduk,

Assuming you want Scottish based training, have you considered the Moray Flying Club at Kinloss? Dual training is £98 per hour. You could qualify for associate membership if you were a cadet, or if you have any existing relatives etc who are serving/ex serving Forces. Theres always a way in if push comes to shove!

You could pitceh up there for a couple of weeks(time allowing) and get pretty much a full ppl done, assuming the weather plays ball, and the instructor is willing to work 2 weeks solid.
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Old 31st July 2008, 23:15   #22 (permalink)
 
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The weather is probably better at Inverness than most of the places mentioned so far. It is on the east coast so not as wet as the west, but also quite far "in" from the north sea so doesnt get affected by the fog as readily as, for example Aberdeen and Dundee. This is all my opinion, I have no stats to back it up.

If I was you and couldnt get into the UAS or afford to fly powered, I would go gliding somewhere locally, ie Portmoak, which is MUCH cheaper, and teaches extemely good handling skills and Airmanship, Then go somewhere in the summer to do your PPL. Those prices sound crazy to me..

Good Luck!
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Old 31st July 2008, 23:53   #23 (permalink)
 
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Mike,

That is a cracking idea. Most of my family are all ex-serviceman so I doubt it would be a problem getting in. I could save up all year then take a month or two leave and get it done.

Stratus Fractus,

It's an idea, it's just Kinross is ages away from me. I would only really want to travel that far if it was for powered flying.
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Old 1st August 2008, 00:00   #24 (permalink)
 
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No probs, best of luck. As Stratus hints at, you'll be flying in the 'Moray Riviera'! It has a unique weather system all to itself, thanks to its Cairngorm/Highland/Black Isle borders. While the rest of Scotland is getting pi**ed upon, the Moray coast is basking in blue sky and sunshine.
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Old 1st August 2008, 14:56   #25 (permalink)
 
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I was paying around £125 an hour down in south wales but it suddenly jumped to £150 for my last hour! - its becoming real real expensive now.. Still love it though..
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Old 1st August 2008, 15:14   #26 (permalink)
 
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While the rest of Scotland is getting pi**ed upon, the Moray coast is basking in blue sky and sunshine.
Ah, but when the rest of jockland is in sunshine, the moray coast is getting piddled on. Like today

Seriously though, Inverness and Kinloss do statistically have the best flying weather in the UK over a year. Nairn, funnily enough, is the sunniest place in whole of the UK.
The school at Inverness has a good reputation, and seems to be very busy at the moment. Which, in my humble opinion, shows that they must be doing something right. Suitably motivated students have been known to get their PPL in three weeks (in mid january). Only down side is that they don't provide commercial training.
There are mixed opinions about MFC, personally I found it a negative place. All the posters and rulebook are preceded by Don't do this and Don't do that. They only have one full time instructor, the CFI, who is a bit draconion to say the least. There are two ways of doing things apparently, his way or the wrong way. Availability of instructor maybe an issue. Also getting on to the base in a major ballache.
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Old 1st August 2008, 16:15   #27 (permalink)
 
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Welshpool Flying School, at Mid Wales Airport

Present costs for flight instruction -
C150/152s £110 per hour dual. Nothing else to pay. No added instructor fees, no base landing fees, and no annual subscription fees to join/stay in, the school.

Come get it while it's hot!
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Old 1st August 2008, 16:16   #28 (permalink)
 
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I was looking at Leuchars flying club as well as they are closer. Even then, Inverness is £107 an hour which you can't beat. I could go up at some point (maybe during the summer) and do loads of hours.

If I pay for 10hours upfront then it would be £97 per hour which is great.
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Old 1st August 2008, 21:12   #29 (permalink)
 
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Yep, hopefully i'll pop up to Tayside in the next few weeks to have a look about. It's good to hear that the instructors are good too, thats an important factor.

Also, i'm looking to do my commercial training with them too, so it'll be interesting to see exactly what they have on offer in regards to that.

Just can't wait to get back flying more than anything else at the moment!
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Old 1st August 2008, 22:59   #30 (permalink)
 
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Tayside is a nice school, my instructor is doing the MCC up there and says they are a good lot.

I've decided I'm going to get in contact with Inverness and see what I can get booked.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 00:22   #31 (permalink)
 
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Last time I called Cabair in Denham, they quoted me £200 per hr which includes all fuel and landing charges for PA-28.

Day light robbery me thinks
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Old 2nd August 2008, 09:51   #32 (permalink)
 
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I have to pay extra for landings and T&G. The price rises at the weekend so at the moment while I'm doing circuits its a wee bit expensive
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Old 2nd August 2008, 11:24   #33 (permalink)
 
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Australia: C150, AUD$206 (about 97 GBP) p/h plus a flat $15 each time for terminal navigation charges. The $206 includes a $12 fuel levy.
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Old 4th August 2008, 16:19   #34 (permalink)
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After reading this i think i am paying too much for what i am getting.

It was £152 an hour + £10 landing fee which was a discounted rate for a large deposit. (PA-28)

Now its just gone up and the pay as you fly rate for the pa-28 for dual training is £175 p/h with the discounted rate at £165 p/h. + landing fees.
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Old 5th August 2008, 12:54   #35 (permalink)
 
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Leicester Aero Club

Im paying £122 per hour all in. Thats in a C152. However i have paid a membership fee which was £90 for the entire year. Its a good deal if you fly a lot...

Nev.
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Old 5th August 2008, 14:19   #36 (permalink)
 
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Leicester Aero Club

Now then, a bit off topic here, sorry...

Nevilinio, how goes the eco-town saga out your way?

JR

(on topic £200 pa membership, £125-135 per hour midweek vs. weekend. No landing fee but then the aeroclub run the field. That's for C-152)
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Old 1st September 2008, 01:15   #37 (permalink)
 
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I am sorry for bringing this thread up once again but reading through some of the prices stated here I think I may be paying a rather large amount more compared to others. I am currently flying in the South of England and am paying £189 per hour in a PA38, although that does include landing fees etc.

Does anybody else feel I may be paying slightly more in comparison to others or is just because of the rising prices we are experiencing in the current days?
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Old 1st September 2008, 09:42   #38 (permalink)
 
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Tuckerr, that does sound excessive. The PA38 is the equivalent of a C152, for which you shouldn't be paying more than £150 inclusive of instruction and landing fees. IMHO even £150 is too much.

One other thing people sometimes forget to factor into their flying costs is the cost of getting to their lessons. With fuel prices remaining high, it costs me a depressing £15 just to get to each of my lessons.
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Old 1st September 2008, 10:42   #39 (permalink)
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My local FTO's rate for instructor hire (ie. for pilots with their own aircraft) is now £45/hr+vat for PPL-level stuff.
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Old 1st September 2008, 19:15   #40 (permalink)
 
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i just paid 1100 euros for 4 hours solo and two dual but got a good price at 10800 euros for 80 hours with a PA-38
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