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Old 21st July 2009, 10:14   #2761 (permalink)
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Research? The link to the last global oil report is already on the forum.

Now then - how about pointing out the 'some truth' bit given you were suggesting to a poster that avgas prices would be declining significantly? Or is is a continuation of your contention back in June that oil would be going up to $200 usd per barrel?

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Old 21st July 2009, 03:31   #2762 (permalink)
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Ryanair Stansted contraction

Ryanair - News : Ryanair Cuts Stansted Winter Capacity by 40%

Caution, the place you are entering might not be entirely spin proof

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Old 21st July 2009, 04:16   #2763 (permalink)
 
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Now then - how about pointing out the 'some truth' bit given you were suggesting to a poster that avgas prices would be declining significantly? Or is is a continuation of your contention back in June that oil would be going up to $200 usd per barrel?
If i could accurately predict the future i would be very wealthy indeed! However speculation of that sort did help me make lots of money so i'm really not fussed if i was wrong

I'll say it again get of your ass and find the figures for yourself i certainly won't help you.
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Old 21st July 2009, 05:13   #2764 (permalink)
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But as I pointed out, I have the figures and they are on this forum.

What fuel pricing pressures and mechanisms make now a golden opportunity as you espoused?

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Old 21st July 2009, 05:30   #2765 (permalink)
 
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No Inflation for a while yet ......

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Thus, theory and current evidence clearly point to deflation as the overwhelming economic risk.
Hoisington's Quarterly out look and Review...

http://www.hoisingtonmgt.com/pdf/HIM2009Q2NP.pdf

Or Scribd link....
HIM2009Q2NP

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Old 21st July 2009, 07:31   #2766 (permalink)
 
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A quick message to "G-Spot lost"... in September last year we had a bet that Netjets would be laying of a significant number of people within a year.... I said they would... you said they wouldn't.... I believe the wager was a donation to the PPRuNe fund.... shall we declare this bet now closed??
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Old 21st July 2009, 11:29   #2767 (permalink)
 
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Things not bad as some peopes says for UK economy, I staying in Acton with Uncle Alexander he out of work actor at home but he get lot of work doing voice on advertizment.

I would like do this but for next flying lesson I must wash lot of cars.
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Old 21st July 2009, 12:48   #2768 (permalink)
 
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Why are people in a rush....??

Come back in ten years with a pot full of savings and ride the wave* back up.... Untill then sit back and watch from a distance...while the herd try and catch the falling knife....



*Countercyclical over the larger degree time frame...
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Still deflating.....

Continental Air to Cut 1,700 More Jobs as Loss Widens ..

Continental Air to Cut 1,700 More Jobs as Loss Widens (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

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Old 21st July 2009, 23:20   #2769 (permalink)
 
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Ryanair to put scheduled routes on ice over winter

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Ryanair is to cut 670 flights a week, close ten routes and reduce frequency on a further 30 routes in the biggest winter shake-up for the airline so far.
Ryanair to put scheduled routes on ice over winter - Times Online

and so it begins

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A leading think-tank is predicting it may take another five years for income per head to return to the level it was before the recession hit in early 2008.
BBC NEWS | Business | UK faces slow economic recovery
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Old 22nd July 2009, 03:32   #2770 (permalink)
 
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to those who have seen recessions before..

Just tryin to suss something out.. what happens to the contents of the pool of pilots during a long drawn out recession?? obviously it will expand because people are being put into it due to losing jobs and those coming out of FTO's but will it shrink a bit because of people deciding to leave the profession?? If so what sort of pilot (demographic) will it be that decides to leave?? Common sense would say it would be reasonably experienced folks (read older and with wife and kids) due to the fact they have responsibilities and need an income NOW.. The inexperienced ones tend to be younger and have no or few responsibilities and can live with mom where as very very experienced pilots may still be able to get work..

Sooo; when the hiring does start who will be in the pool of available pilots?? will it be an even mix or will it be inexperienced folks because of more experienced people leaving aviation?? a seperate question would be who would the airlines be after?? Presumably when they have let people go; it would have been those who had been around less and who had less experience under their belts. Does this then leave an airline who is top heavy and now needs to hire younger or less experienced pilots in order to even out the demograhic of pilots within their company??
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Old 22nd July 2009, 04:16   #2771 (permalink)
 
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It is a virtual reality version of the lobster/fish tank in a posh restaurant.

Candidates who might be deemed suitable for employment are told that they will be considered again as future vacancies arise. Sometimes those that are removed from employment will be told that they will be considered again if and when new opportunities arise. It gives the company a resource to possibly draw from at short notice rather than having to re-initiate a new recruitment programme.

The pool or tank in a busy restaurant is a useful feature that lets the customer select their own choice of product, with the knowledge that it looks fresh and attractive. In a busy restaurant the pool can be added to as necessary, ensuring a ready source of supply.

Inevitably, sometimes the product will become damaged or cease to be fresh in the pool and it can then be removed, discarded and replaced with something fresher, or if the market contracts can be emptied altogether. The pool/tank is a resource for the restaurant. Not every fish or lobster will become a fine culinary presentation. The best will usually be selected first, the leftovers will be discarded or cycled into other products as their longevity and lack of freshness make them less appealing to the customer. Fresh additions will often be selected ahead of older survivors.

When the market for fresh lobster drops off, the product can be humanely thrown back in the sea. The tank can be emptied and cleaned with bleach. It may provide window dressing for a while, but if it is taking up space and/or costing money to run, it is likely to be put in a cupboard.

An airline holding pool has many of the same characteristics. It provides a resource for the company. It can pick and choose who it might want from that pool at its own whim. It can add to it at any time. It can empty the pool or discard items as it wishes. Unlike the real pool, in this virtual pool the product is only "an expression of interest" that might have moved on elsewhere. It costs little or nothing to maintain, and because it is virtual, it provides no guarantees of priority of supply, for either the candidate or the company.

Airline "holding pools" are therefore simply a group of people who have both given and received an "expression of interest," at a particular point in time. There is no particular commitment on either party. As time passes some of the denizens of the holding pool will cease to be as attractive to the company that interviewed them. Likewise some might have found employment elsewhere. A "holding pool" is not a job, or even a promise of a job. The companies expect the candidates to realise this and act accordingly. The candidates themselves should realize this and accept that as a product they have a definite shelf life in this respect.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 04:37   #2772 (permalink)
 
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Enjoyed the Tank Fish analogy Bealzebub....


To add to Quant's point....
There was a note doing the rounds last month or so put out by GS's Jim O'neill. It pointed out, if we have a "robust" growth of 3% per year, it will take over 21 years just to get back to 2007 asset wealth levels, such as been the destruction.

Wait until next year, when it will be the UK's Public Sector turn to deflate.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 05:16   #2773 (permalink)

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Nice one Bealzebub, very much enjoyed your fish tank!
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Old 22nd July 2009, 06:13   #2774 (permalink)
 
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Geez you must have just been waiting for a time to use that analogy.. liked it though..
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Old 22nd July 2009, 14:42   #2775 (permalink)
 
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After Delta Airlines reports a $257 million 2Q loss...

The eight biggest carriers, according to Michael Linenberg (BOA) will be on course for quarterly losses that may total $1.2 billion....

Still deflating....
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Old 22nd July 2009, 14:58   #2776 (permalink)
 
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"It's The Real Economy, Stupid"

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We are now in the early stages of depression. The economic indicators we follow to track economic activity are all signaling a slowdown of massive proportions. You woundn't know it reading the mainstream papers of course..........This month we're keeping it simple by focusing on the real economy....... cont on below
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http://www.sprott.com/Docs/Marketsat.../July_2009.pdf
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Old 23rd July 2009, 22:22   #2777 (permalink)
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JB007 - I could watch your avatar for hours ......

I've obviously got a very small mind
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Old 24th July 2009, 03:38   #2778 (permalink)
 
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U.K. Economy Shrank by 0.8% in the Second Quarter

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July 24 (Bloomberg) -- The U.K. economy shrank more than twice as much as economists forecast in the second quarter as a record annual slump in construction, banking and business services kept Britain mired in recession
Gross domestic product contracted 0.8 percent from the first quarter, the Office for National Statistics said today in London. Economists predicted a 0.3 percent drop, according to the median of 32 forecasts in a Bloomberg News survey. From a year earlier, the economy shrank 5.6 percent, the most since records began in 1955.
U.K. Economy Shrank by 0.8% in the Second Quarter (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
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Old 24th July 2009, 06:04   #2779 (permalink)
 
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At least the reduction is less than before and we're through the worst and things are starting to improve everywhere. ... this doesn't mean that some ill sheep won't be slaughtered though.

It's best to make progress than none at all.

We're going in the right direction and that's what's important! "Up" ... quite literally for me anyhow.
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Old 24th July 2009, 10:26   #2780 (permalink)
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The only two things sure to go UP this year and next are interest rates and unemployment.


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