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Old 12th Jan 2006, 11:20   #41 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

I may be wrong and please tell me if i am but from what i've seen on airline recruitment websites etc they either want pilots with thousands of hours of experience or some have a few places for low hours pilots (200hrs). What would be the advantage to having the 100 hours training if they will accept you with 200 non-jet hours. Plus they will pay you to fly for them- not you paying them for experience. If i'v missed the point please feel free to say....
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Old 12th Jan 2006, 11:48   #42 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

SFC have an excellent sucess rate which speaks volumes, dont just think of the astreaus deal.
Students and instructors from the last few years now flying for :
Easyjet / Ryanair / BACX / Air Asia / First Chioce / Air Atlanta / Flyjet / Wizzair / Aer Arann / Jet2 / Excel / flyglobespan / and quite a few in excellent instructing roles or involved in corporate bizz jet jobs.
They can boast all the same names as the likes of OATS or whoever but dont. I am sure there is many more with other airlines but the above represent what I know of people from my time there.
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Old 12th Jan 2006, 12:42   #43 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

I agree with WIT,

There's more to SFC than Astreus. Last time I was there I spoke to one of the instructors about his views of the Astreus T/R. He suggested that I would be better off getting a T/R through a Ryanair approved centre and getting a job through them? And only to use Astreus as a 'last choice'. I don't really know much about the Ryanair T/R, what does anyone else think?
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Old 12th Jan 2006, 12:51   #44 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

You have to go through CAE or SAS to do the TR - not easy to gain a place, but if you do your MCC through Parc (who SFC use) and impress then you may find yourself on the fast track to shelling out 17k plus!
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Old 12th Jan 2006, 21:26   #45 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

Off track a little, but if you did a 73 type rating outwith the Ryanair approved providers and applied to Ryan, would they knock you back completely or will their web application not allow you to apply? Just wondering, as the through put from the approved providers is not keeping up with demand AFAIK.

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Old 13th Jan 2006, 18:55   #46 (permalink)
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starting a stapleford myself this year. Went many of the half decent mod course providers to look round, quite simply SFC was the best and cheapest I saw. The diamond twin planes for the ir are a massive draw, and far outstrip anything the integrated students will use at OAT or cabair.

The reputation of SFC is growing and growing, I challenge anybody to find a bad comment about them on this web site.
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Old 15th Jan 2006, 09:46   #47 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

How can Stapleford offer there ATPL ab initio price at such a low cost (~28K) when OAT and Cabair are in the region of 50-60K ??
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Old 15th Jan 2006, 10:08   #48 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

dobsjn44

Simple, less overhead and more efficient for example

No fancy brochures
No fancy BS adverts in mags
Less people walking around in expensive suits\uniforms
You dont have to pay for the pensions and bonuses of such people.

Who do you think pays for the PALACE of Cabair\OAT. Those who go.

Simple economics and business
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Old 15th Jan 2006, 11:57   #49 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

#11 anyone?
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 04:50   #50 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

What if any are the disadvantages of doing your training on an a/c with a glass cockpit. Could you still fly say seneca a/c under IFR conditions without the need for further ratings. Also the training is done on the diamond aircraft is the simulator which they use type specific, or is it conventional dials and gauges.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 08:21   #51 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

Believe me, once you get in the DIamond you will not want to go near the Seneca again. though if you want to, I see no reason why you can't do the IR in the Senecas - though you might piss the IR instructors off........

Re the sim. They don't mess about down there. Since last month they have installed a brand new Diamond sim which replicates the real thing perfectly.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 10:46   #52 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

Hi
Just noticed in my Stapleford brochure that the modular Multi rating is in the Seneca and the Multi IR is completed in the Diamond. Does this make any sense to anyone? If I'm paying for 6 hours in a twin I don't see the sense in doing it in a different aircraft than the one I'll fly for IR training.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 11:04   #53 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

You can't get your MER in the Diamond as its too straight forward to fly basically. It only has one set of power levers and basically is quite forgiving in an engine out situation. It is for that reason you do the MER is the Seneca.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 15:56   #54 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

tchhuuu tchhhuuuu

I'm reading a lot about Stappleford. Ok training seems ok...what about accommodation?
My choices were, CABAIR, then it wen to PAT at Bournemouth, now it's Stappledord.
Is there a bad comment around about stappledord?
I still need information about accommodation. London is expensive ...
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 01:02   #55 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

I'm not sure of the exact details but I seem to believe that Stapleford can offer fairly cheap accommodation close to the airfield. The best thing to do is give 'em a call.

As regards to bad comments, Air Polygamy, I'll let you know if I ever come across one. So far I can't fault a thing!
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 04:27   #56 (permalink)
 
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In case I go to Stapleford and find out they ain't that good. Would I be able to get my money back if I tell them Capcon lied to me ???
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 07:22   #57 (permalink)
 
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Re: Stapleford Flying Club

You can get Accomodation for 10 on the airfield at Stapleford
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 07:50   #58 (permalink)
 
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Ok about the airfield ?

Now let's talk about London aaahhh London ... you're going to make me go bankrupt if I were to live with you !
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:05   #59 (permalink)
 
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Stapleford is actually in Essex but close to London, Ongar is the nearby town which isn't too lively..

Regarding the Diamond the only downfall Ive found is that I can't do the entire IR skills test in it, apparently the partial panel part of the test has to be done in the Senaca due to the turn slip/ball indicator not being available in the glass cockpit. This maybe able to be done in the Senaca sim..still waiting for feed back from them....
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:49   #60 (permalink)
 
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People from Stapleford have completed and passed the whole IR Skill test in the Diamond DA42
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