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pineridge 21st Aug 2010 18:16

Spitfire crash
 
Reports of a Spitfire fatal crash on landing at Tynset, Norway at 1730 GMT today. Sorry, no more details.

EpsilonVaz 21st Aug 2010 18:38

An article in Norwegian En død etter krasjlanding på Tynset | www.retten.no

Translated using Google:

http://g.api.no/obscura/www.retten.n...39708x708r.JPG
One dead after crash landing on Tynset

One person is dead after a plane crash at Tynset Saturday afternoon. Police operations headquarters in Hamar could just after 19 PM Saturday night confirm that one person is dead.

The plane should have tipped around and crashed in connection with the landing at the airstrip at Tynset which is a button mil south of Trondheim city. Accident should have happened around the clock 18.45.
The deceased was alone in the plane.

There must be a veteran, specifically a Spitfire fighter aircraft of the type that was used in World War II, which has crashed.

Sunday will be held at a larger flystevne Tynset airport, and it is probably one of the older aircraft will participate in which has tipped around.

mintpro172 21st Aug 2010 19:57

thats really sad. There is a spitfire being rebuilt at Ardmore in New Zealand since it crashed on landing last year. No injuries though.

AKchain 21st Aug 2010 21:13

Very sad indeed

Appears to be the biltema spitfire with swedens most experience pilot at the time
(Bertiil Gerhardt)

Biltema Air Show

Saw this spitfire only a couple of days ago near my home :(

G-CPTN 21st Aug 2010 21:33

Aircraft registered in Sweden and pilot Swedish.

Eye witness saw it coming in 'high' over the landing strip before veering off into a cornfield and tipping over.

An airshow was planned for tomorrow . . .

M609 22nd Aug 2010 01:01

The a/c did a overfligt at high alt, then a low pass, then repositioned to land. Landing was well in, and it ended up overturned in a field next to the rwy.

At least that's what media says

Having landed a 172 there a couple of times....

There is a
bit of terrain surrounding the field, but not that bad

I've met the pilot severeal years ago when he flew the J-29 out of Angelholm, great guy.

Sad news indeed

nomorecatering 22nd Aug 2010 01:50

Hope it wasnt SM845....arguably the most beautiful spitfie in the world.

Gummer Bump 22nd Aug 2010 08:18

nomorecatering

Regret to say it was.

Bad news

teleport 22nd Aug 2010 09:40

Expressen.se picture
Svensk man död i flygolycka - Nyheter - Senaste nytt | Expressen - Nyheter Sport Ekonomi Nöje

MJet 22nd Aug 2010 10:31

The pilot was one of the most experienced pilots in northern Europe. +30k Hours on +60 different types. His last equipment; one Falcon 7X, two Spitfires, one P51 Mustang...

RIP BG!

Hakan Olsson 22nd Aug 2010 11:08

My first post in this forum and it's a sad one.......

It was confirmed in public a couple of hours ago that the pilot was Bertil Gerhardt.
The aviation community in Sweden has lost one of its great profiles.

Ljungbyhedsflygare omkom i kraschen - hd.se

M609 22nd Aug 2010 17:48

Webcam from the airfield:

http://www.tynsetflyklubb.no/images/webcam.jpg

If media reports are to be trusted, the aircraft ended up at the far end of the runway in the picture. Rwy starst approx 50m outside the frame on the right

Map/arial view:

Finn Kart

M609 23rd Aug 2010 00:11

The Norwegian AAIB has released a pic of the aircraft after it was righted with a crane and rolled to a hangar

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/130...ctive/960x.jpg

JEM60 23rd Aug 2010 05:52

I know it's the usual speculation, but IIRC in most nose over accidents, the fin collapses, and traps the pilot in a very bad position, bent over in a position where breathing becomes very difficult, or even impossible, e.g. Paul Morgan in his Sea Fury at Sywell a few years ago, Skyraider pilot in the States at an Airshow, a Harvard in the U.K. I would suggest that this may well be the case here. Sadly, all life has a risk element to it.

IO540 23rd Aug 2010 12:26

This pic shows possibly something not right with the landing gear?

kalleh 23rd Aug 2010 13:02


Originally Posted by IO540 (Post 5887411)
This pic shows possibly something not right with the landing gear?

But in the article text the crash investigator says he is certain, although not 100% sure, nothing was wrong with the gear because when they rolled the aircraft to the hangar everything looked fine.

A37575 23rd Aug 2010 13:07


crash investigator says he is almost 100% certain nothing was wrong with the gear
That picture is shortly after take off. It is quite normal for one gear to retract more slowly than the other. DC3 landing gears typical examples.

M609 23rd Aug 2010 13:38

http://g.api.no/obscura/www.retten.n...20708x708r.jpg

http://www.ostlendingen.no/polopoly_...=1282484441000

doubleu-anker 23rd Aug 2010 13:42

That poor pilot probably got his neck broken or was unable to breath, as pointed out above.

Very sad indeed.

forget 23rd Aug 2010 14:13


I know it's the usual speculation, but IIRC in most nose over accidents, the fin collapses, and traps the pilot in a very bad position, bent over in a position where breathing becomes very difficult, or even impossible
A question for those in the know. I'd be surprised if the original aircraft design didn't consider this. So far as I know this design included a sheet of armour plating to protect the pilot's head from 6 o'clock incoming. Is it possible that this plate was, in fact, dual purpose, the secondary purpose being pilot protection in a full nose over. Is it possible that the plates have, mistakenly, been removed as redundant?


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