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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 10:50
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So he survived a crash and fire in his twin and then goes on to do this? Interesting lifestyle.

2.5 years in jail and banned from France for 5 years, talk about fast justice.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 10:56
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I suppose that his old adversary, Golden Eagle, is probably out by now after his 21 month sentence for fraud. Otherwise they might have met up to chat about their old friend Robert Weaver.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 11:11
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Is this Mr Green?
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 13:09
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The fire which caused serious injury to David Green was not the result of a crash. It occurred at about 7 p.m. on a January night. The aircraft was parked at North Weald, an airfield which had no night flying facilities . The story seems to be the fire was caused by the ignition of solvents (or something similar ?)
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 13:51
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@Jay Sata: it seems incorrect to speculate about people's identity. This forum is about flying (private) not about who does. I count on moderators to be quicker than ever.
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Well there appears to be plenty of speculation regarding his history and background and that picture is out there on the web.

I have not suggested he is a member of this forum.

The fact remains that he has been found guilty in a French court and is serving a 2.5 year sentance. He was obviously not concerned about the consequences when he left the UK a week ago to smuggle four illegal immigrants in to the UK.

If he did not want his name in the UK press and confinement in prison then he could have stuck to the law like the majority of us.

This forum is about private flying but that includes the bad as well as the good.

I don't think people smuggling does anyone any favours and that certainly includes the flying community.

This was not a solo trip.

They organised at least five return flights since April and used Le Touquet airport for similar trips.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/21/brit-p...#ixzz4nZXTkZ2P

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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers
@Jay Sata: it seems incorrect to speculate about people's identity. This forum is about flying (private) not about who does. I count on moderators to be quicker than ever.
Correct up until the point someone is convicted of a serious crime (especially flying related ) then any past right or expectation to anonymity on here or anywhere else goes bye bye, as the conviction is a matter of public record.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 14:39
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Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers
@Jay Sata: it seems incorrect to speculate about people's identity. This forum is about flying (private) not about who does. I count on moderators to be quicker than ever.
Perhaps he should have taken your earlier advice
I was taught to always have an acceptable plan B - but we all have the freedom to define our own "acceptable".
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 18:30
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Jetblu = Dave Green has been known for at least 5 years, since the North Weald fire.

There is no case to answer here.

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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 21:59
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Am I surprised there is no David Frederick Green (his full name) on the FAA Airmen data base....

https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 02:05
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Am I surprised there is no David Frederick Green (his full name) on the FAA Airmen data base....

https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx
Why surprised? if he's based out of North Weald the chances are he's British and would more than likely have a British license and not be listed on a US federal pilot database.
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 09:12
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Originally Posted by piperboy84
Why surprised? if he's based out of North Weald the chances are he's British and would more than likely have a British license and not be listed on a US federal pilot database.
Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.
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Originally Posted by dont overfil
Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.
Well I'm sure licensing will be the least of his worries as he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. More to the point Pete I literally just stepped of that big metal bird in the sky at EDI and spent the last 6 hours dreaming about getting that other "n reg" that's sitting out front your window in the air now it's all buttoned back up and paperwork all correct, however being the cheap bastard I am I didn't spring for the altimeter change out so your gonna have to get yer wee conversion calculator out and give me the field info in inches and not that fruit pastels nonsense. Cya monyana !!
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Originally Posted by piperboy84
Well I'm sure licensing will be the least of his worries as he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. More to the point Pete I literally just stepped of that big metal bird in the sky at EDI and spent the last 6 hours dreaming about getting that other "n reg" that's sitting out front your window in the air now it's all buttoned back up and paperwork all correct, however being the cheap bastard I am I didn't spring for the altimeter change out so your gonna have to get yer wee conversion calculator out and give me the field info in inches and not that fruit pastels nonsense. Cya monyana !!
The pressure (P) conversion formulas

Hectopascal to inch of mercury (hPa to inHg):
0.02952998751 × PhPa = PinHg
Example:
If hPa = 49 then inHg = 0.02952998751 × 49 = 1.44696938799 inHg

Inch of mercury to hectopascal (inHg to hPa):
33.8638816 × PinHg = PhPa

There you go
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 11:50
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Originally Posted by dont overfil
Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.
No.

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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 13:58
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This alleged smuggling offence is serious, make no mistake about that.

Seemingly, one phone call by way of a 'tip-off' and we instantly have half the UK border control onto an aircraft...
Who could possibly have been so cynical about the authorities clamping down on smuggling by private aircraft???? Jetblu, on 20th November 2014!
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 15:35
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He should have listened to his own advice.....
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 19:14
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Originally Posted by pilotmike
Who could possibly have been so cynical about the authorities clamping down on smuggling by private aircraft???? Jetblu, on 20th November 2014!
Would this be the same Jetblu who wrote this on the TCT thread in August last year:
The whole TCT saga has been quite fascinating. All it has endorsed for me is that 'fraud, deceit and corruption' is still live and kicking in certain circles, yet described and applauded in a way to insult a normal persons intelligence.
There's a saying.."You can't beat the system"
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 22:22
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Originally Posted by dont overfil
Surely he would need a UK AND FAA or French licence to fly "N" reg in France.
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Exactly..... that's why I made the point.
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 00:51
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Am I surprised there is no David Frederick Green (his full name) on the FAA Airmen data base....
You do realise that we can ask the FAA to hide our information, you wont find me in a general FAA database search although I hold an FAA ATP, they gave us this option about 10 years ago.
So not finding doesn't mean doesnt exist.
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