Looking for instructor with Italian microlight licence (tailwheel rating) in UK
Thank you for the answers, really, really helpful!
Last one for a while...
Can I fly my Italian microlight in the UK on my French licence? (the Italian and French bit is okay, and I can do so in Belgium by paying a 90EUR/year fee)
Last one for a while...
Can I fly my Italian microlight in the UK on my French licence? (the Italian and French bit is okay, and I can do so in Belgium by paying a 90EUR/year fee)
I'm sure that your French is much better than mine Patowalker - what's the correct interpretation of "convient " there? A read that as "appropriate ", but I'm not sure how that maps to recommended / mandatory /something-else
CAA should permit this for usually up to 28 days, but will ask for copies of aircraft and pilot paperwork then issue a specific permission. However, I'm not quite sure where the rules are for this any more - it used to be in Airworthiness Notice 52, which was withdrawn : but I can't see it in the successor document CAP 747.
CAA should permit this for usually up to 28 days, but will ask for copies of aircraft and pilot paperwork then issue a specific permission. However, I'm not quite sure where the rules are for this any more - it used to be in Airworthiness Notice 52, which was withdrawn : but I can't see it in the successor document CAP 747.
If I may be allowed to respond in @PW's place: yes, correct. Or, also:
"It is suitable to ..." Observe that any instructor can take the test, here in BE it needs to be an examiner. An ultralight examiner, that is. I don't think France has such a certification.
And elaborating on Patowalker's response: what he states for France applies for Belgium, too, and I think for most European countries. What I find strange (but not unreasonable) in his citation is that France apparently has a part of theory common for all types of microlights, for which you need no test if you hold a PPL, plus a part specific to each subclass (3-axis, flexwing, parasail...) for which one needs to pass the test anyway.
"It is suitable to ..." Observe that any instructor can take the test, here in BE it needs to be an examiner. An ultralight examiner, that is. I don't think France has such a certification.
And elaborating on Patowalker's response: what he states for France applies for Belgium, too, and I think for most European countries. What I find strange (but not unreasonable) in his citation is that France apparently has a part of theory common for all types of microlights, for which you need no test if you hold a PPL, plus a part specific to each subclass (3-axis, flexwing, parasail...) for which one needs to pass the test anyway.
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CAA should permit this for usually up to 28 days, but will ask for copies of aircraft and pilot paperwork then issue a specific permission. However, I'm not quite sure where the rules are for this any more - it used to be in Airworthiness Notice 52, which was withdrawn : but I can't see it in the successor document CAP 747.
http://www.developpement-durable.gou...vised_GC_6.pdf
I found the previous version on the DGAC website.
http://www.developpement-durable.gou...vised_GC_6.pdf
http://www.developpement-durable.gou...vised_GC_6.pdf
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I thought I'd ping them an email, to see what they said.
There's an automatic reply:
Receipt is acknowledged of your notification of intent to visit the UK under the terms of the exemption provided with Generic Concession (GC) No. 6 (previously issued as Airworthiness Notice Number 52). You must ensure that the documents specified below, are available for inspection by the CAA on demand during your visit:
A valid registration document from the ECAC Member State or, if appropriate, the Provincial authority for French ULM aircraft;
A valid airworthiness certificate issued by the State of Registry (e.g. CDNR, CNRAC), Permit to Fly or equivalent document, e.g. Carte d’Identification (ULM) or Flight Permit for the aircraft;
A valid insurance certificate or document as appropriate that meets the requirements of European Regulation (EC) 785/2004, where necessary; and
A valid radio station licence, if appropriate.
A copy of the CAA's acknowledgement of having received the data specified in Schedule 1 to this Notice
Your dates have been recorded, if you do not use them you will lose them. No credit is given for days lost due to bad weather. For next year it is recommended that prior to each visit to the UK you notify the UK CAA in accordance with Generic Concession No. 6
Please note that there will be restrictions to UK airspace during the 2012 London Olympics (14 July 2012 to 12 September 2012) which will affect the south east and south coast of England. Please see web link for full details and latest information:
Olympics | Airspace & Safety Initiative
Applications and Approvals Department
I have to admit to being a little shocked that as we enter 2017 they're warning potential overseas visitors about the 2012 Olympics!
Some advert to the world this is...
There's an automatic reply:
Receipt is acknowledged of your notification of intent to visit the UK under the terms of the exemption provided with Generic Concession (GC) No. 6 (previously issued as Airworthiness Notice Number 52). You must ensure that the documents specified below, are available for inspection by the CAA on demand during your visit:
A valid registration document from the ECAC Member State or, if appropriate, the Provincial authority for French ULM aircraft;
A valid airworthiness certificate issued by the State of Registry (e.g. CDNR, CNRAC), Permit to Fly or equivalent document, e.g. Carte d’Identification (ULM) or Flight Permit for the aircraft;
A valid insurance certificate or document as appropriate that meets the requirements of European Regulation (EC) 785/2004, where necessary; and
A valid radio station licence, if appropriate.
A copy of the CAA's acknowledgement of having received the data specified in Schedule 1 to this Notice
Your dates have been recorded, if you do not use them you will lose them. No credit is given for days lost due to bad weather. For next year it is recommended that prior to each visit to the UK you notify the UK CAA in accordance with Generic Concession No. 6
Please note that there will be restrictions to UK airspace during the 2012 London Olympics (14 July 2012 to 12 September 2012) which will affect the south east and south coast of England. Please see web link for full details and latest information:
Olympics | Airspace & Safety Initiative
Applications and Approvals Department
I have to admit to being a little shocked that as we enter 2017 they're warning potential overseas visitors about the 2012 Olympics!
Some advert to the world this is...
Updating an old thread, but I can confirm that you can fly 'almost any' foreign microlight in the UK for up to 28 days (in one period of those 28 days). You need to leave the UK after/at 28 days and then re-enter to start a new period. Longer than 28 days, you must bring it onto the UK register - clearly rather more complicated! :-)
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As mentioned previously, homebuilt, Irish registered and French registered microlights are exempt.
Only the UK and Belgium charge a fee for granting permission to fly foreign registered factory built microlights in their airspace.
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