Notams / TRAs for Obama's Visit
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Notams / TRAs for Obama's Visit
The notams and TRAs for Obama's London visit are on the AIS website, however the weblink within the notams themselves (that purports to lead to a map) does not work. I don't fancy plotting the notams myself - does anyone have a link to the actual map as the areas of coverage seem fairly extensive?
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The notams and TRAs for Obama's London visit are on the AIS website, however the weblink within the notams themselves (that purports to lead to a map) does not work. I don't fancy plotting the notams myself - does anyone have a link to the actual map as the areas of coverage seem fairly extensive?
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Uncapitalise the last parts of the link & it will work.
The www isn't case sensitive, the cms used by NATS obviously is. /PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML gets you a 404 Not Found, /public/index.php.html takes you to the NATS home page.
Obama flying restrictions are top of the left side menu, or here.
The www isn't case sensitive, the cms used by NATS obviously is. /PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML gets you a 404 Not Found, /public/index.php.html takes you to the NATS home page.
Obama flying restrictions are top of the left side menu, or here.
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Prop swinger, many thanks.
Amusing to note the out of date chart that is being used - the Panshangar ATZ is still shown. In the narrative section of the notam, an obsolete number for the AIS information line has also been used.
That's the airborne inconvience understood - I dread to think of what might be in store for Friday's (ground) commute. I've never heard one of these esteemed visitors acknowledge/apologise for the hassle they cause to us mere mortals...
Amusing to note the out of date chart that is being used - the Panshangar ATZ is still shown. In the narrative section of the notam, an obsolete number for the AIS information line has also been used.
That's the airborne inconvience understood - I dread to think of what might be in store for Friday's (ground) commute. I've never heard one of these esteemed visitors acknowledge/apologise for the hassle they cause to us mere mortals...
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It used to be Purple airways when I was a lad, and I remember returning to WW after one was supposed to have ended, but got a red light from the tower to stay away (no radio then!)
Saw HRH take off with his RAF instructor in a Dove, and head away from the field. Got the green light to return and did an overhead join only to find HRH heading straight towards me a pattern altitude over the field in the wrong direction! The two seat Tipsy was a very agile aircraft, thank goodness!
Saw HRH take off with his RAF instructor in a Dove, and head away from the field. Got the green light to return and did an overhead join only to find HRH heading straight towards me a pattern altitude over the field in the wrong direction! The two seat Tipsy was a very agile aircraft, thank goodness!
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This is what I really DETEST about Obama - he doesn't understand the inconvenience his presence causes - for example, last year he came to Germany twice, in both cases a no fly zone of 30 miles radius was established around his location, closing down (e.g.) Berlin General Aviation for 3 days. Next week he flies to Hannover and closes down the airspace 30 miles around Hannover. Not only that, the secret service have warned people in Hannover not to look at him from windows as he goes by because they might be shot.
Since when is a president so paranoid people aren't allowed to even look out the window, that a perfectly reasonable hobby is banned whilst that person is there? Further, doesn't he realise his attitude is alienating even more people than his current foreign policy is doing?
The guy is a complete - place your own adjective here. I'll be glad to see the back of him.....
Since when is a president so paranoid people aren't allowed to even look out the window, that a perfectly reasonable hobby is banned whilst that person is there? Further, doesn't he realise his attitude is alienating even more people than his current foreign policy is doing?
The guy is a complete - place your own adjective here. I'll be glad to see the back of him.....
That's nothing to do with this particular person - US'ans have their delicate subjects, and I am sure it is some government agency rather than the president's self that imposes these rules - they are indeed ridiculous and paranoid, but they would and will be the same with any other president.
As long as we Europeans choose to depend on Uncle Sam's ample defense budget, rather than to keep up our own household, we will have to live with them, and their paranoia over certain subjects. It really is our own decision.
Apologies for straying off into politics.
BTW Steve, you must have heard certain countries have certain rules about insulting heads of state
As long as we Europeans choose to depend on Uncle Sam's ample defense budget, rather than to keep up our own household, we will have to live with them, and their paranoia over certain subjects. It really is our own decision.
Apologies for straying off into politics.
BTW Steve, you must have heard certain countries have certain rules about insulting heads of state
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That's nothing to do with this particular person - US'ans have their delicate subjects, and I am sure it is some government agency rather than the president's self that imposes these rules - they are indeed ridiculous and paranoid, but they would and will be the same with any other president.
As long as we Europeans choose to depend on Uncle Sam's ample defense budget, rather than to keep up our own household, we will have to live with them, and their paranoia over certain subjects. It really is our own decision.
Apologies for straying off into politics.
BTW Steve, you must have heard certain countries have certain rules about insulting heads of state
As long as we Europeans choose to depend on Uncle Sam's ample defense budget, rather than to keep up our own household, we will have to live with them, and their paranoia over certain subjects. It really is our own decision.
Apologies for straying off into politics.
BTW Steve, you must have heard certain countries have certain rules about insulting heads of state
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Originally Posted by Steve6443
The guy is a complete - place your own adjective here
How about...'The guy is a complete noun'...
Originally Posted by Steve6443
The guy is a complete - place your own adjective here
How about...'The guy is a complete noun'...
coming back to Jan, I do understand the concept and seeing as how Angie has decided to allow the wheels of justice to investigate a TV satirist for his poem about Erdogan, I decided to refrain from using a noun, and just asking people to insert an adjective can hardly be insulting, for that you'd need to use a noun.
That's my excuse for my extremely piss poor differentiation between noun and adjective and I'm sticking to it, although theoretically I could also claim that as it's been so long since I left school, my head has been filled with more useful things than the difference between a noun and an adjective
Gonzo: No, the DFS have been told they HAVE to create this no fly area for 3 days whilst Obama is in town otherwise he won't come. If I was head of the DFS, I would have said that the demands of the Secret Service are over the top and only created a RA(T) for the time he's actually IN the aircraft, arriving or departing his destination. But he's had this in place the last couple of times he's arrived and the Secret Service see this as their 'goddamned' right; worse, now they've gone further demanding people don't look out their windows as he passes under threat of being shot.
Wonder what will happen in 2030, when the US president is due in town, based on the current Secret Service demands? No-one is allowed to be anywhere NEAR where he is - total exclusion zone of 30 miles on threat of being shipped off to a Gulag for 30 years, in case they breathe on him?
Uncapitalise the last parts of the link & it will work.
The www isn't case sensitive, the cms used by NATS obviously is. /PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML gets you a 404 Not Found, /public/index.php.html takes you to the NATS home page.
Obama flying restrictions are top of the left side menu, or here.
The www isn't case sensitive, the cms used by NATS obviously is. /PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML gets you a 404 Not Found, /public/index.php.html takes you to the NATS home page.
Obama flying restrictions are top of the left side menu, or here.
To be fair, the German TRAs are something the Spam Secret Service goons require - it was the same with Bush.
Although I'd heard that the odious Bliar was once told that the SSS wanted the same in London when Bush was due to appear. For once Trust-me-Tone did the right thing and refused. "He can't come, then", was the response - to which Bliar allegedly said "That's fine by me..."
The USMC (or whoever they are), who follow in helicopters wherever PotUS goes, were in flight planning at Brize once - and were astonished to be told that no, the world and London TMA were not going to come to a halt for them - they'd have to use the heli-lanes like everyone else!
When visiting Stonehenge once, Obama slipped his leash and simply wandered over to chat with an unsuspecting local family, much to the evident chagrin of the hatchet-faced goons in suits and shades:
He seems totally genuine: Family's 'Incredible' Obama Stonehenge Surprise
Although I'd heard that the odious Bliar was once told that the SSS wanted the same in London when Bush was due to appear. For once Trust-me-Tone did the right thing and refused. "He can't come, then", was the response - to which Bliar allegedly said "That's fine by me..."
The USMC (or whoever they are), who follow in helicopters wherever PotUS goes, were in flight planning at Brize once - and were astonished to be told that no, the world and London TMA were not going to come to a halt for them - they'd have to use the heli-lanes like everyone else!
When visiting Stonehenge once, Obama slipped his leash and simply wandered over to chat with an unsuspecting local family, much to the evident chagrin of the hatchet-faced goons in suits and shades:
He seems totally genuine: Family's 'Incredible' Obama Stonehenge Surprise
He's actually just as 'bad' as Clinton. According to the National Enquirer, (my wife reads it - honest) he has a suite permanently booked in a certain Washington hotel and the Secret Service have a special route through non public areas so they can escort him to/from his assignations.
Had to lower his nosewheel manually hence the delay, then caused more consternation by positioning out to Mildenhall below controlled airspace with his nosewheel stuck down and main gear up!