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Old 20th Jan 2016, 07:43
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Final Words of Advice

Medical--------------------------------Check
School---------------------------------Check
Books----------------------------------Check
Enthusiasm-----------------------------Check
Money---------------------------------Check
Time-----------------------------------Check

Pre PPL list completed.

Any final wisdom would be greatly appreciated before I start was has been a life long dream of learning to fly.

You all seem to fairly level headed as I've lurked for a long time. So please offer up any and all tips tricks and bits to keep me going when the going gets bad, it will help with the giddiness that does not seem to be going away.

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Old 20th Jan 2016, 08:03
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Just do it.
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keep me going when the going gets bad
The going won't get bad. Its all good -just sometimes better than others.
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Stan

I came into flying over 30 years ago from Car racing. I was sponsored racing and lost the sponsor taking up flying as without a sponsor it was impossible to be competitive which when I was sponsored I was.

I intended to fly to solo and then to give up! But then having achieved the solo I then had a new goal of the PPL and so on and so on I did not have a large amount of free cash back then and did the remainder of the PPL over the next 18 months.

I very much looked at flying in chunks with one goal leading to another.
There will be highs and lows but the buzz from a good set of lessons or when you feel you have cracked one aspect kept you going for days after if not weeks.
So expect Highs and Lows expect times when you question why you are doing this? Expect bad patches when for instance you are doing great landings and then cannot seem to get a smooth touchdown.

A lot is about confidence and that can be gained or lost very quickly

It is important to click with the instructor you have as a good instructor will bring out the best in you while one you don't click with will slow your progress.

Above all its costing a lot of your hard earned money and the club is your servant so don't forget that and enjoy the experience

Pace

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Don't be too disappointed when you lose lessons you have booked due to bad weather. It's the most frustrating thing I found when doing my PPL.

Also, if you can possibly do so, don't pay up front for the whole course: pay as you go. If you have to pay a substantial amount up front: make sure you pay it on a credit (NOT debit) card. That way, if the flying school goes bust you can get your money back.

Other than that: go for it and best of luck!

Edit: also Pace is absolute right about making sure you get the right instructor: that's probably the number one factor.
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that's probably the number one factor.
Nah, number two, to number one, "Don't Pay Up Front"

Number three, get it before all the good airfields are turned into council estates
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humility.

Accept that your instructor knows shedloads about flying, and do it all his (or her) way. Try and avoid coming up with your own ways of doing things.

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I know a person who appears regularly on TV who:-
a) Bought an aircraft.
b) Paid for an instructor to teach him.
c) Soloed.
d) Sold the aircraft.
As far as I'm aware, he hasn't flown again (but I may be wrong) however one of his TV appearances did show him flying.
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Be receptive to criticism and feedback. It's valuable.


Being able to take negative feedback and act on it is very important, not just in flying but life in general. Not many people are good at receiving feedback.
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Hi all,

Thanks for the pointers so far, all good.

Confidence is rising.

Stan
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 14:56
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Originally Posted by Stan0147
it will help with the giddiness that does not seem to be going away.
It's OK to be excited, because...
- you open 1 more dimension to the 2 you already had
- you will go through an experience of a lifetime
- you will gain privileges few others have.

So my advice is...
- expect the unexpected - absorb and digest rather than prepare in advace
- maintain your common sense - if you don't understand you clarify, if you disagree you explain, if it doesn't work you analyze, if you are stuck you search for the way out
- enjoy the learning opportunity - your goal is to learn so don't put unrealistic milestones up, don't expect everything will go smooth, always be generous, humble and good terms with your instructors, fellow students and everyone in the air or on the airfield.

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Number three, get it before all the good airfields are turned into council estates
Won't happen. For decades governments have been trying to persuade councils to privatise council estates; they're certainly not allowed to build any new ones (beyond the occasional handful of houses if they really twist the rules quite hard).
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Consider how many millions of years humans have been around, but quite unable to fly. Consider that it wasn't until early last century that man flew a powered, controllable aeroplane for the first time. Of all the humans that have ever lived you are lucky enough to be one of the very few to be around when it's possible for humans to fly!

It's a great privilege! I really can't understand why anyone would not do it!
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You must have already decided by listing your actions so far, so why are you wasting time, get on with it
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I would say, know why you want to fly.
At some point people suddenly realise that they don't know why they are flying and are not getting anything out - and give up.
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1 Hour Once a Week Most Inefficient Way to Learn

You could easily see half the lesson used up in start, taxi, waiting for clearance, transit to / from practice area, taxi back and shutdown.

Then you have all week to forget.

Book longer slots and try to fly twice a day. Early on that may be too much as initial lessons can be overwhelming, but try to fly as many days a week as you can. Weather will inevitably give you off days.
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Stan, get in the habit of keeping track of the weather....I watch the forecast on BBC (the others are rubbish!) both every morning and every evening news time. This way you have an idea of the trends, which you can nail down by checking the online forecasts, either BBC for your precise locality, or the more elaborate forecasts available to pilots when planning a cross country later on in your flying career...

And I do hope you have midweeks available....when everybody else is working, if you can turn up midweek you will make RAPID progress! I went solo in gliders at Booker, Wycombe Air Park, in 2 months of midweek flying, not bad for an old woman. And then after gaining the gliding silver "C" the following summer did the book learning for the PPL, and nailed that one in a couple of weeks in winter, at Wycombe Air Centre. When you are qualified to go cross country in a glider, the only thing left to learn in power is how to start the engine, taxi, and talk on the radio....
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When you are qualified to go cross country in a glider, the only thing left to learn in power is how to start the engine, taxi, and talk on the radio....
Mary, you are priceless!!
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1 Hour Once a Week Most Inefficient Way to Learn
I agree. That leads to the three steps forward, two steps back progress that vastly extends time to qualification, and trebles the cost.

I went solo on the C150 at about 10 hours because I dedicated a week of summer evenings straight from work to be at the airfield. I did six of those ten hours that week (the wx was co-operative) sometimes taking advantage of 'no show' students to fill their vacant slot if that was appropriate for me, soloing in the last session. That simply would not have been possible at 1 hour a week.

You say you have the money available so paying for a series of lessons close together won't be a problem, and it will be much cheaper in the long run.

Pre-solo is probably a time (I certainly found it so) where lessons close together work well. Later in the course it probably isn't as important. But never leave it too long between lessons, and book more than you need as you'll loose quite a few due unsuitable wx.
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I give early students or those considering learning to fly two promises only - it's going to take longer than you think and it will cost you more than you think!

Something about under promising and over delivering....
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