My girlfriend feels ill when flying
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Firstly, I would second what patowalker has said, from my experience the travel sickness bands are effective.
When flying gliders, I wear them and I'm generally free from any symptoms of airsickness. However, if an instructor takes control and sets up some upset recovery situations or spins, then I begin to feel a bit queasy after ten or so minutes.
Historically, when humans were poisoned by something they ate, vision and their other senses often didn't match, therefore a vomiting reflex occurred. I find that when another person is flying somewhat "interesting" manoeuvres, I cannot equate control movement with what I am seeing. Therefore, after a few minutes (even with the sickness bands), I begin to feel like wanting to go back and land.
When flying gliders, I wear them and I'm generally free from any symptoms of airsickness. However, if an instructor takes control and sets up some upset recovery situations or spins, then I begin to feel a bit queasy after ten or so minutes.
Historically, when humans were poisoned by something they ate, vision and their other senses often didn't match, therefore a vomiting reflex occurred. I find that when another person is flying somewhat "interesting" manoeuvres, I cannot equate control movement with what I am seeing. Therefore, after a few minutes (even with the sickness bands), I begin to feel like wanting to go back and land.
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Marmalade sandwiches. The glucose is a strong alkali and helps neutralise the acid bike. Also they are the only food that taste exactly the same coming up as going down.
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my GF likes to take pictures whilst flying, as soon as I catch her head down or turned way back, I ask her to look for traffic on her right, otherwise I know it's going to be some 40-50 seconds of her having her head turned back before she announces she's sick. Keeping them busy and looking out on the horizon does the trick, we have even done 3h flights now with out any issue
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I, like quite a few others, experienced pretty back motion sickness when I first started my lessons. The first 10 hours weren't pleasant! My instructor was amazing though and would spot the signs before I even started to feel much discomfort. As with most things though, the more you do it, the more used to it you become.
He recommended (and now I do) ginger sweets. I had "gin-gins" (can get them in health shops) which are a little sweeter than just raw ginger and they really settle the stomach.
Just don't kiss her after. They stink.
He recommended (and now I do) ginger sweets. I had "gin-gins" (can get them in health shops) which are a little sweeter than just raw ginger and they really settle the stomach.
Just don't kiss her after. They stink.
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For my experience, take more interest in the condition of your passenger, than your enthusiasm for flying. Fly steadily, and avoid other than straight and level as much as possible. Chat normally with them, knowing that their chatting less (or non) is a strong indication they are not feeling well. Tell them that there's no problem going back early if they like.
Provide fresh air, and draw their attention to the horizon. If three or four times you point out something on the horizon, and they do not comment, it's time to take them back regardless of what you think about their condition.
As said, even hardened pilots can get motion sick when they are not flying. If yu want them to go again, make this time as pleasant as you can for them.
Provide fresh air, and draw their attention to the horizon. If three or four times you point out something on the horizon, and they do not comment, it's time to take them back regardless of what you think about their condition.
As said, even hardened pilots can get motion sick when they are not flying. If yu want them to go again, make this time as pleasant as you can for them.
Or just have the passenger gently massage the same point with a finger or thumb from the other hand.
If you look on the inside of your wrist, you should see two creases. Measure the length of your front thumb joint towards the inside of your elbow from the crease nearest to the elbow. Probe gently there, and you should find the point - it's slightly recessed and slightly tender. Accupuncturists would call it Pericardium 6.
That's the point that the seasickness bands work on, and somebody GENTLY massaging the point themselves works even better. It also gives them something active to concentrate upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aM430P7scE
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If you look on the inside of your wrist, you should see two creases. Measure the length of your front thumb joint towards the inside of your elbow from the crease nearest to the elbow. Probe gently there, and you should find the point - it's slightly recessed and slightly tender. Accupuncturists would call it Pericardium 6.
That's the point that the seasickness bands work on, and somebody GENTLY massaging the point themselves works even better. It also gives them something active to concentrate upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aM430P7scE
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Acupressure is a technique which many find useful! There is another point just above your breastbone which I have used on the dentist chair with some success
Whether that is the fact that the conscious thought of physically pressing and that slight discomfort diverts attention and fear of what the dentist is doing I don't know
Regardless whatever works ? The only problem with any crutch is you hit the ground harder if that crutch breaks )) but in the dentist chair acupressure does help
Pace
Acupressure is a technique which many find useful! There is another point just above your breastbone which I have used on the dentist chair with some success
Whether that is the fact that the conscious thought of physically pressing and that slight discomfort diverts attention and fear of what the dentist is doing I don't know
Regardless whatever works ? The only problem with any crutch is you hit the ground harder if that crutch breaks )) but in the dentist chair acupressure does help
Pace
The dirty secret among glider pilots is that they can get themselves sick maneuvering in a strong thermal.
Students can challenge instructor stomachs Medium freezer bags come in handy. Afterwards you feel better
Ginger can help.
Acclimatisation helps, but you have to start anew every season.
One of my sons when small would got sick twice in the flare in a crosswind landing.
Students can challenge instructor stomachs Medium freezer bags come in handy. Afterwards you feel better
Ginger can help.
Acclimatisation helps, but you have to start anew every season.
One of my sons when small would got sick twice in the flare in a crosswind landing.
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The best option is : Let her fly.
Teach what and how the airplane responds to "her" control inputs.
Do it gently, and it will all be over before you know it.
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But also know : Air sickness is for everybody.
I flew between 50 and 100 hrs a year in all kinds of stuff.
From Ultra lights up to and including the F-16.
Never got airsick. Did not know what it meant.
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One day, our CO handed me a ticket to Farnborough (UK) as a passenger on a BAF HS. A small trip of about 45-50 minutes.
As usual, LOL; I fell asleep soon after boarding.
Half way over the channel, (Belgium to UK) I woke up, as sick as I had never been before. Man, man, man, I could crowl under my seat..... and was sick the rest of the day.
In the evening we had to board for the flight home. I walked up those stairs with lead in my shoes.... This was gonna be bad.
Seated, and once airborne again, I recovered as if nothing had happened at all.
Very pleasant flight home, and when driving home, I wondered ; Hey what happened today? ?
Teach what and how the airplane responds to "her" control inputs.
Do it gently, and it will all be over before you know it.
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But also know : Air sickness is for everybody.
I flew between 50 and 100 hrs a year in all kinds of stuff.
From Ultra lights up to and including the F-16.
Never got airsick. Did not know what it meant.
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One day, our CO handed me a ticket to Farnborough (UK) as a passenger on a BAF HS. A small trip of about 45-50 minutes.
As usual, LOL; I fell asleep soon after boarding.
Half way over the channel, (Belgium to UK) I woke up, as sick as I had never been before. Man, man, man, I could crowl under my seat..... and was sick the rest of the day.
In the evening we had to board for the flight home. I walked up those stairs with lead in my shoes.... This was gonna be bad.
Seated, and once airborne again, I recovered as if nothing had happened at all.
Very pleasant flight home, and when driving home, I wondered ; Hey what happened today? ?
GTE
Acupressure is a technique which many find useful! There is another point just above your breastbone which I have used on the dentist chair with some success
Whether that is the fact that the conscious thought of physically pressing and that slight discomfort diverts attention and fear of what the dentist is doing I don't know
Regardless whatever works ? The only problem with any crutch is you hit the ground harder if that crutch breaks )) but in the dentist chair acupressure does help
Pace
Acupressure is a technique which many find useful! There is another point just above your breastbone which I have used on the dentist chair with some success
Whether that is the fact that the conscious thought of physically pressing and that slight discomfort diverts attention and fear of what the dentist is doing I don't know
Regardless whatever works ? The only problem with any crutch is you hit the ground harder if that crutch breaks )) but in the dentist chair acupressure does help
Pace
Can you explain exactly where that point is? I've been practicing acupressure non-professionally for 20 odd years but neither from practice or half a dozen books that I just waded through can I come up with any pain control points at the top of the breastbone - which doesn't mean that they don't exist, but I'm stumped at the moment.
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I bought a book on it maybe 12 years ago Yes if you go to where your ribs come to a V point and the breast bone, bend your thumb and place the tip of your thumb on the breastbone where your thumb joint is about an inch up you will find a tender point press on that
There is also a point in the muscle between the thumb and first finger. spread your thumb and first finger and at the web between move about an inch back into the muscle squeeze that muscle with two fingers.
They are not supposed to be anti pain points but calming points but as stated they do work. Maybe more to do with giving your mind something to concentrate on rather than 100% on what the dentist or whatever is doing to you.
When you drive a car yourself its very rare to get motion sickness and maybe this is more to do with the fact that your mind is fully occupied driving the car
Pace
I bought a book on it maybe 12 years ago Yes if you go to where your ribs come to a V point and the breast bone, bend your thumb and place the tip of your thumb on the breastbone where your thumb joint is about an inch up you will find a tender point press on that
There is also a point in the muscle between the thumb and first finger. spread your thumb and first finger and at the web between move about an inch back into the muscle squeeze that muscle with two fingers.
They are not supposed to be anti pain points but calming points but as stated they do work. Maybe more to do with giving your mind something to concentrate on rather than 100% on what the dentist or whatever is doing to you.
When you drive a car yourself its very rare to get motion sickness and maybe this is more to do with the fact that your mind is fully occupied driving the car
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Only aeros tend to make me feel sick occasionally but you get used to it anyway. I used to get a little sick when doing my PPL training but mainly because I had my head in the cockpit half the time.
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I bought a book on it maybe 12 years ago Yes if you go to where your ribs come to a V point and the breast bone, bend your thumb and place the tip of your thumb on the breastbone where your thumb joint is about an inch up you will find a tender point press on that
There is also a point in the muscle between the thumb and first finger. spread your thumb and first finger and at the web between move about an inch back into the muscle squeeze that muscle with two fingers.
I bought a book on it maybe 12 years ago Yes if you go to where your ribs come to a V point and the breast bone, bend your thumb and place the tip of your thumb on the breastbone where your thumb joint is about an inch up you will find a tender point press on that
There is also a point in the muscle between the thumb and first finger. spread your thumb and first finger and at the web between move about an inch back into the muscle squeeze that muscle with two fingers.
The point on the hand makes sense, but I'll look a bit further in as well.
Always good to combine one's hobbies
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